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#6154008 - 01/25/16 02:14 PM Buying a .300 blackout upper?
destroyer4570 Offline
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Registered: 09/02/12
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Hello all, I have this a question this may sound like a stupid question but I'll ask anyway. I want to buy a .300 Blackout upper to use for deer and hog hunting next year, Now here is my dumb question, if i buy the upper online, does it ship to the house or will the upper have to be sent to a ffl license dealer. I think I know the answer but was just checking, I plan on buying the upper from radical firearms. I just wanted to see what as the process on buying the upper. Thanks for any and all info.

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#6154017 - 01/25/16 02:17 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
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No ffl required

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#6154021 - 01/25/16 02:20 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
destroyer4570 Offline
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jeff, thank you for the responce. That's what I thought but wasn't sure.

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#6154023 - 01/25/16 02:20 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: jeff1383]
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Originally Posted By: jeff1383
No ffl required


Yep. Every part of the rifle except the lower receiver can be shipped to your door.
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#6154033 - 01/25/16 02:25 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Thank you for the reply, that's good to know.

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#6154482 - 01/25/16 06:15 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
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Yes, no ffl needed. And when you need good 300 blk out ammo, give me a buzz.

http://dallasreloads.com/product-category/300-black-out/
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#6154749 - 01/25/16 08:32 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Yes, no ffl needed. And when you need good 300 blk out ammo, give me a buzz.

http://dallasreloads.com/product-category/300-black-out/
thats true, he makes good boolits! Chad, your over your PM limit
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#6154954 - 01/25/16 10:10 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
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Hey Destroyer, my 2 cents on the caliber without starting a bunch of debate: Just a side note to the shipping scenario.... but,

I was exactly where you are two weeks ago, looking at a radical upper 300 blk out for 239.00 to put on my lower for Deer/Hog hunting.

I did some research and talk and posts about 300 blk out for Deer. I personally did not feel comfortable at over 100 yds with the BO for Deer. With hogs, who cares just shoot them in the ear hole.

I think Im going with a 6.8 for my lower, which will bring my range to 200 comfortably.

My opinion....I could be wrong, I have been wrong before and will be again....

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#6155462 - 01/26/16 10:28 AM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
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I've hunted with the 300 blk out for the last 3 years. I've taken critters up to 245 yards with it. The limit on the blk out, like most calibers, would be how effective the shooter is on getting a bullet on target. A 125 grain bullet from a blk out is more than adequate for any Texas game. I think the blk out is a great caliber for Texas. With the blk out being offered in many compact rifles, I think it's a great choice.
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#6155684 - 01/26/16 12:09 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
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Chad,

Do you know the energy of a 300 blk out for 150 and 200 yards for 125 grain bullet. I have read to keep it over 1000.

I went to 300 black talk at the hunting section, and all the deer taken were very small, unless shot within 50 yards.

Thanks...........

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#6155733 - 01/26/16 12:31 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
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I've killed a hog with a 300blk at 175 yards, DRT. It's plenty for Texas deer within 200 yards.

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#6155832 - 01/26/16 01:21 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: Roll-Tide]
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Originally Posted By: Roll-Tide
Chad,

Do you know the energy of a 300 blk out for 150 and 200 yards for 125 grain bullet. I have read to keep it over 1000.

I went to 300 black talk at the hunting section, and all the deer taken were very small, unless shot within 50 yards.

Thanks...........


I do. I copied a trajectory chart below of the 125 SST out of my 300 blk out Rem 700 bolt gun shooting suppressed. The 125 SST is running right at 2350 fps. If you go by the 1000 ft lb rule, you're good to about 170 yards with my set up. But you can't say that at 170 yards and in this is the effective range of the round. I'm more interested in the capability of the round. Even at 260 yards, you are carrying 800 ft lbs of energy. This is plenty of energy for Texas game and still be very effective. After all, you are punching a .308 caliber hole with a good bullet that will expand and penetrate very well.

I shot a crow on a tree limb at a lasered 245 yards with a 1.4 mil elevation hold and about a .2-.3 wind hold. (I was bored and about to get out of the stand from a morning hunt!) I have taken multiple deer, several coyotes, and a couple of pigs with the 125 and 150 BT, 125 SST, and 115 Berger loads in the 3 years I have been hunting with the blk out. Most everything I shot was DRT, and only a few traveled more than a few steps. I had a big pig go about 40 yards and pile up when I shot the 150 grain Nosler BT, which does not expand much at the blk out speeds. The 110-125 grain bullets is the most effective hunting weight bullets I have seen when shooting the blk out.

The energy is important of a round, but not the deciding factor. Shot placement is the #1 factor, IMO. The 300 blk out has almost no recoil and is found with compact 16" barrels (or shorter). This makes it a very easy round to shoot well, which is, IMO, more important than having a large magnum round that might be shot poorly.

Range Velocity Energy Elev
(yards) (ft/sec) (ft-lbs) (mil)
0 2350 1532.7 ---
20 2295.5 1462.5 -0.91
40 2241.9 1395 -0.04
60 2188.7 1329.6 0.12
80 2136.1 1266.4 0.1
100 2084.2 1205.6 0
120 2033 1147.2 -0.14
140 1982.6 1091 -0.31
160 1933 1037 -0.5
180 1884.2 985.3 -0.71
200 1836.2 935.8 -0.93
220 1789.1 888.4 -1.16
240 1742.9 843.1 -1.41
260 1697.5 799.8 -1.66
280 1653.1 758.4 -1.93
300 1609.6 719 -2.22
320 1567 681.5 -2.51
340 1525.6 646 -2.82
360 1485.3 612.3 -3.14
380 1446.2 580.4 -3.47
400 1408.3 550.4 -3.81
420 1371.8 522.3 -4.18
440 1336.7 495.9 -4.55
460 1303.2 471.3 -4.94
480 1271.1 448.4 -5.35
500 1240.5 427.1 -5.77
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#6156087 - 01/26/16 02:58 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: huck18]
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Originally Posted By: huck18
I've killed a hog with a 300blk at 175 yards, DRT. It's plenty for Texas deer within 200 yards.


Yep, I dropped an almost 300 lb hog like a bad habit a few weeks ago at 150 yards with my 300 BO, he didn't even take a step. I'd have no problem shooting at deer up to at least 200 yards.

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#6156476 - 01/26/16 06:27 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: destroyer4570]
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Thanks for the chart.

Non suppressed the same?

Where do you shoot hogs? Head?

I may start looking at 300 BO again.

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#6156493 - 01/26/16 06:35 PM Re: Buying a .300 blackout upper? [Re: Roll-Tide]
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Originally Posted By: Roll-Tide
Thanks for the chart.

Non suppressed the same?

Where do you shoot hogs? Head?

I may start looking at 300 BO again.


Suppressed or non-suppressed doesn't matter as long as you are using full powered super sonic ammo. The Hog I shot at 175 yards was behind the shoulder. I've also shot several big red deer with the 300blk from ranges of 50-150 yards and never had one move more than a few steps before tumbling.

I would not hesitate to shoot a deer at 200 yards with it and I think you would be fine out to 300 yards assuming you can put the bullet where it needs to be.

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