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#6151233 - 01/23/16 09:17 PM To pen or not to pen
esnow74 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 01/09/12
Posts: 257
Loc: Ellis County, TX
I know it has been debated before but for the record, I do not pen my corn feeders. I will be putting up protein in the next two weeks and wonder is it really necessary to pen these in? How high should the feed tubes be from the ground especially if not penned in. Yes we do have hogs but no cattle. I've been on places with hogs that guys didn't pen in protein feeders but they were commercially built where as mine will be built in house. Is it really necessary or is it just to not feed the pigs any protein? By the way all pigs are shot on sight when I'm out there and compared to where I hunted in Refugio there is not a big pig problem but they are around. Also curios if I should put the protein away from the corn feeders and basically keep them off limits for hunting if I have it available year round. Let's hear all the varying opinions and reasoning.

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#6151253 - 01/23/16 09:29 PM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52092
I pen all my feeders so hogs will not be hanging around. If you have hogs and it gets dry, they will hit your feeders. If they can rub against a protein feeder they will shake feed out. If they shake feed out they will continue to show up till it is empty. I prefer not to hunt protein feeders, but sometimes it is okay when you are not shooting a lot around them. I also do not set my protein tubes height more than 33" in my pens. That way any deer that can get into my pen can eat. I know feeders at 39" height on feed tubes will keep 99% of the hogs from eating. It will not stop them from showing up and keeping the deer off the feeder. The more the hogs hang around the less deer you will see.
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#6151773 - 01/24/16 10:16 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
Texas buckeye Offline
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Registered: 11/22/11
Posts: 2963
Loc: Keller
Pen it up, the hogs will eventually tear it up if you don't. And as stx mentioned above, the more hogs you have coming the less deer you will see.

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#6151915 - 01/24/16 12:04 PM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
4Weight Offline
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Registered: 11/09/11
Posts: 2722
Loc: Tarrant Cty and Murray
Pen em all, protein and spinner.
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#6152190 - 01/24/16 03:22 PM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
bigjoe8565 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 3822
Loc: Mesquite, Tx
I have three feeders at my primary blind. The two feeders south of my blind are in a pen and the one north of my blind is open. I use two feeders in my pen to increase the odds I'll have at least one thrower working. The pen feeders throw in the AM and PM while the open feeder throws in the PM only. The pen feeders and open feeders are roughly two hundred yards apart. This setup has allowed me to have the best of both worlds. Deer hit the feeder pen, and hogs as well as deer hit the open feeder. I literally have times where deer are in my pen and pigs are at my open feeder.

The ability to shoot as many pigs as possible helps to ease the pain of paying for a lease.

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#6153379 - 01/25/16 08:37 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
esnow74 Offline
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Registered: 01/09/12
Posts: 257
Loc: Ellis County, TX
i still wont pen the spin feeders until I feel like the hogs keep the deer away. With a pen for the protein, what is minimum number of panels to use? I want them to feel comfortable going in and out and not feel like they are jumping into a "trap" would rather them feel like they are just crossing another fence with room to move around. I will also be doing water troughs and thinking they should be inside the pen as well?

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#6153586 - 01/25/16 10:31 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
bigjoe8565 Offline
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Registered: 06/30/08
Posts: 3822
Loc: Mesquite, Tx
I would make the pen as big as you can afford. Mine is 17 panels and to make it easier for the deer to get in and out I cut/lowered sections on each panel. I also made my own round vs. square.

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#6153641 - 01/25/16 10:56 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
TexasKC Offline
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Registered: 12/30/12
Posts: 1366
Loc: Houston & Lexington, Texas
Pen them all. I use 34" tall hog panels. I prefer a separate, secluded place for a protein feeder.

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#6159145 - 01/28/16 09:05 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
GLC Offline


Registered: 02/25/09
Posts: 4117
Loc: Burleson Texas
I had to pen 2 out of my 8. The ones that are not penned have very few deer come to them cause the hogs keep them run off.
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#6159588 - 01/28/16 02:03 PM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
esnow74 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 01/09/12
Posts: 257
Loc: Ellis County, TX
My corn feeders have never been penned except when hunting with cattle. Based on reports from the others on the lease it seemed as I saw many more deer at my corn feeder than most and they all have theirs penned. If hogs get to be too big of a problem the I will pen but was more concerned about the protein feeders getting messed up by hogs.

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#6161022 - 01/29/16 12:37 PM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
Hunter Daddy Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 08/27/14
Posts: 85
I have had hogs learn to stand on their hind legs and empty a pellet feeder over night. Pellets are expensive, so definitely fence your protein feeders. I have one protein pellet feeder and one spin-cast corn feeder in my pen. Both are surrounded by 6 hog panels 16' long. This is would be the minimum number of panels to put around a feeder or two. Cattle panels are taller and I would use a minimum of 8 panels. One thing about hog panels, you can step over them to fill your feeders. I have had as many as 8 deer (all bucks) inside of my 6 hog panel feeder setup. If adding extra feeders or water to your setup, then definitely add more panels. I have my pellet feeders, which are inside my pen, set right at 36" above the ground.

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#6161810 - 01/30/16 12:13 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
esnow74 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 01/09/12
Posts: 257
Loc: Ellis County, TX
All good input, thanks everyone. I'm thinking of setting the protein away from corn feeder but definitely using a pen and adding water station to those set ups. For now will keep corn without pen, until forced otherwise.

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#6164022 - 01/31/16 10:23 PM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
STXHO Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 04/06/11
Posts: 5123
Loc: South Texas
I pen all my protein feeders. On my larger ranches 3,000acres+ I run 1 lamco timed feeders and 1 free choice per pen. If you are serious about feeding protein it will be a major investment in your herd each year. Adding a pen is only protection for your investment. My pens are 15-20 panels. Give the deer plenty of room.
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#6165936 - 02/02/16 09:08 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
rabbit_jack Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 01/13/16
Posts: 293
Loc: Central Texas
48' x 48' square works fine for me.

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#6202345 - 02/28/16 08:04 AM Re: To pen or not to pen [Re: esnow74]
Texmel Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 09/13/11
Posts: 332
Loc: Melissa, TX
Will pen all my feeders as the hogs population is exploding at lease. Have 2 feeders left to put up the pens. What surprises me is that turkey will not get in the pen to eat the corn. Have watched them come in to feeder area and just walk around the pen but will not fly over it to the corn.
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