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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/21/16 07:24 PM
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Talk to the landowner, (and have a picture ready to show him of them on your property if he shows any doubt they crossed the property line). Tell him you passed on shots for everyone's safety sake, and you'd really like to continue hunting on your land without the disturbances during hunting season. hopefully he will respect you and you taking the time to talk to him man to man, and he will see to it that the shenanigans stop, and camping is moved to another location.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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01/21/16 07:42 PM
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DuckCoach1985
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I guess this is kind of a confusing situation. I own 52 acres , about 20 of which is huntable. We lease to a neighbor for grazing, but his cattle are not on my property during the season. He also leases the neighboring 100 acres which makes sort of a horseshoe shape around our land. The landowner's family of that 100 acres are the ones camping on the 100 acres. So you only have 20 huntable acres and you are relying on resources from the neighbor's property to make your hunting viable and you are upset because they started doing stuff on their property that is affecting your hunting??? Knowing that you have such a small, huntable property, you need to work on making improvements to make it more viable for deer, hogs, or whatever. You can't rely on what isn't yours. You may have to do some work to make your little property independently viable. Why can't you hunt on the other 30 odd acres of your property? Try talking to your neighbors and seeing if you can work something out with them. That is always a good idea, but with that said, don't expect them to comply with your wishes. They have ever bit as much right to utilize their property for their desires as you do for yours. If they say NO, then you have to go along with it. I did notice that nowhere did you indicate that your neighbors are appearing to act in any sort of intentionally rude or disruptive manner. They are not trying to thwart your hunting, just making recreational use of a pretty spot on their property. You're right.. i got what I got and can't expect the neighbors to stop doing what they want to do, and I am glad to see they are getting their kids outdoors. I do not think they are trying to mess anything up for us, but I also think they know I hunt and don't care. As far as improving the land, It was a peanut farm for a long time when my grandpa had first purchased it in the early 70s. You can clearly see where the soil changes from straight sand to mud, where it transitions from open coastal pasture to a thick line of south TX mesquite brush. We have been trying to get some cover to grow out into the fields, but even mesquites won't grow in the sand and they always die within a year or so (Grandpa used to say the peanuts sucked up all the nutrients). The sand is also very acidic. We have tried treating with lime but have not been able to make any significant changes. I like the Idea of offering some meat or teaching their kids to hunt.. Might give that a try for next year.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: Justin T]
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01/21/16 08:57 PM
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Maybe you can ask to lease their hunting rights, and maybe ask that they not camp during the season? Might be worth throwing some money at, depending on the LO. This was my first thought, but I'm sure the family really enjoys camping during the season because the weather is usually pretty mild. To the OP, tough situation and I agree that talking to the neighbor would be my first step and probably the best way to try to resolve your frustration.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/21/16 10:07 PM
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There is no excuse for the trespassing. They have a right to be doing anything else they want to on THEIR place. I hunt about 30 acres of my property and I could easily find a safe place to hunt and not be putting any of my neighbors in harms way. If you cannot safely shoot a high power rifle on your land and guarantee that the shot will not leave your property then you should NEVER be using that firearm. Regardless if there are campers on the adjacent property.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/21/16 10:13 PM
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Nothing is harmed by talking with them.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
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01/21/16 10:15 PM
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Texas Dan
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So you only have 20 huntable acres and you are relying on resources from the neighbor's property to make your hunting viable and you are upset because they started doing stuff on their property that is affecting your hunting??? Isn't that the world we live in today? Are people not entitled to the fruits of other's labors? Soon, if not already, there will be those whose hunting area is so small, their stand will be near every property line.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/21/16 10:40 PM
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sounds as if the neighbors family are really enjoying their land
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/21/16 10:52 PM
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/22/16 12:54 AM
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I think talking with them is the answer. Make sure they understand the boundaries and that trespassing will not be tolerated. It sounds like they don't really care much about deer hunting. If that's the case all you can do is manage it as best you can.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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01/22/16 01:02 AM
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I think talking with them is the answer. Make sure they understand the boundaries and that trespassing will not be tolerated. It sounds like they don't really care much about deer hunting. If that's the case all you can do is manage it as best you can. I agree with this - but I am still disturbed by the question "should we shoot in their direction?" Why would anyone even ask that question? So you are going to shoot and hope they are not on their property somewhere in the path of your bullet? If they trespass, mess up your hunting, etc. nothing justifies knowingly shooting into someone else's property and hoping they are not around - Wow!
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/22/16 01:02 AM
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I like the idea you have of teaching the kids to hunt. If they were up for that it might get you access to the other land or atleast by having them involved in hunting see what a good spot they are camping in. Or they will be able to shoot the deer before you! Lol
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/22/16 05:07 PM
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Almost the same thing happened to me this year. Lowest number of deer I've seen in years! I do get entertainment watching the guy trying to get to his stand in the morning. He gets lost every time!! LMAO! He's shinning his flashlight like fighting off swarming bees!! It's hilarious!! I ended up talking to him for the first time a couple of weeks ago!! I really nice guy who was drunk off his A$$! I'm hoping we can become friends and work together for a better season next year.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: tlk]
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01/22/16 07:16 PM
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1860.colt
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have gotten permission ta hunt small tracks of land... Used archery only, scouted, found the trails, put up fewders, then stand just off trail... Just worth...
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: DuckCoach1985]
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01/22/16 10:43 PM
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John Humbert
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Just as a point of reference - so many folks are quick to jump on the bandwagon and point out about bullet distances, fence crossings, etc. on small properties. I am lucky in that I have the rights to hunt on several parcels of land, from a least of more than 5000 acres to small parcels less than 50 acres. In fact, if the truth be known - for me personally - I have had better luck on the smaller parcels. My "axis honey hole" is a little known spot tucked away that is only about 35 acres.
Now on the small parcels, if you are hunting an elevated position - either by terrain or stand - you can be sure your bullet ain't going anywhere but in the animal or quickly into the ground - if you have setup things right. I am more concerned about an animal escaping across boundary than a bullet, as even a perfect shot on an axis is no guarantee the deer isn't going to run a couple hundred yards.
Point being - don't be so quick to judge or claim that you cannot hunt a small parcel safely and successfully.
Last edited by John Humbert; 01/22/16 10:43 PM.
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Re: Neighbor Rant
[Re: John Humbert]
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01/23/16 08:37 PM
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1860.colt
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Point being - don't be so quick to judge or claim that you cannot hunt a small parcel safely and successfully.
If ya wanna learn about hunten, & deer's habbits... As pappy once said: Put down the gun & pic up a bow... When deer season rolled around would find me down at OSBWMA archery hunts... With over 2,727 acres ta hunt, my parcel of land was a 25yrd radias of my tree stand... That's just a personal choice, at that range could shoot 3 arrows at Target & all be touching... My first bow hunt using a 60# bow... At 15+ ft up in stand, deer would look while drawing, it finaly put head down behind a tree... Drew putting pin higher allowing for hight from being in tree, at 20yrds the deer ducked the arrow... Difference between live & target... Not putting down those who shoot farther, or use rifle, my first deer rifle was a Kentucky .45 & have several more modern rifles...
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