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#6146620 - 01/21/16 11:26 AM Neighbor Rant
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The land adjacent to us is leased for cattle only, and the last 6 years or so no one has been out there to hunt or otherwise, only the rancher to feed his cattle. This year the LO's family decided to take advantage of the land, setting up a camp on the creek in the far back corner of their property. Problem is, this creek has always been a hub of deer and hog activity, and when they were back there camping, we wouldn't see any major activiy for 3-4 days. The spot they picked to camp is roughly 300 yards through the brush behind my feeder (my only feeder) as we don't have much land. If we were to shoot we whould be shooting directly at them. We've had several monsters show up on camera this year and I have been trying to hunt them since early bow season! These guys would chase around cows, honking their horns, shoot skeet, chop wood, and let their kids (4-10 years old) run around screaming through the woods. I hadn't had a chance to check my trail cam, but when I finally did last weekend I had several pictures of them driving their polaris across MY property (close enough to the feeder to trigger the camera) at all hours of the night. We installed a gate there for the rancher because we lease to him for grazing also. Last weekend they were driving up to the gate and looked like they were about to come on our land while we were in the blind so I shined my flashlight at them.

Long story short, our season was pretty much wrecked. I did manage a nice 8pt this year, but my fiance never made it to the ranch when the neighbors WEREN'T there, and we hunted quite a bit this year. She never saw a deer this year. Very frustrating season to say the least.

I know there isn't much I can do legally, but what would you do if this happened to you? Would you shoot in their direction? I did have a spike one afternoon and a doe last weekend that came in for a short time, but we chose not to shoot because I knew their kids were back there running around. I understand this is 'part of owning a small piece of land' and the neighbors are within their rights (except for them trespassing which I believe is an honest mistake). Has anyone dealt with this type of thing before? How did you handle it?
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#6146633 - 01/21/16 11:33 AM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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Call the neighbor? If you lease to him, I am sure you can communicate and talk it through.
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#6146634 - 01/21/16 11:33 AM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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Regardless if they are there or not it is illegal to shoot if your bullet will cross the property line. So legally it shouldn't matter if they are there or not. You should be really asking yourself if you are set up in a direction and location to where you can make a legal shot.
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#6146639 - 01/21/16 11:37 AM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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But if the only concern is them scaring the deer off then I would talk to them and see if they come to a compromise l. Just because they don't hunt doesn't mean they don't like venison. Offer them some meat
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#6146655 - 01/21/16 11:42 AM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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Simple answer is for you to lease the Neighbors property. IMHO, no Feeder should be within 400yds of a fence unless you have control of the other side.

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#6146659 - 01/21/16 11:45 AM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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If you have pictures of them trespassing there is something you can do legally about that.

As for what they do on their land, you are probably SOL given the folks you are obviously dealing with.
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#6146671 - 01/21/16 11:52 AM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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What Js & TT said, + Are you in an elevated blind?
Does your cattle lease terms allow them to operate motorized veh. on your prop? for recreation?

Work it all out with LO / Rancher; offer to teach their kids to hunt - education is the key to respect for others activities.

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#6146692 - 01/21/16 12:00 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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I would do something right quick about the trespassing, intentional or not. That's all you can do, but no way would I let that slide.
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#6146715 - 01/21/16 12:06 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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I guess this is kind of a confusing situation. I own 52 acres , about 20 of which is huntable. We lease to a neighbor for grazing, but his cattle are not on my property during the season. He also leases the neighboring 100 acres which makes sort of a horseshoe shape around our land. The landowner's family of that 100 acres are the ones camping on the 100 acres. They had been (hopefully unknowingly) driving through our land. My shot will not cross the property line, but I am shooting in their direction if I shoot, and I was not comfortable doing that so we passed on a few shots this year.


Edited by DuckCoach1985 (01/21/16 12:08 PM)
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#6146729 - 01/21/16 12:12 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: HornSlayer]
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Originally Posted By: HornSlayer
Simple answer is for you to lease the Neighbors property. IMHO, no Feeder should be within 400yds of a fence unless you have control of the other side.


The neighboring rancher (who grazes that property) tried to lease for hunting but they didn't want him hunting there. I agree this would be ideal and I might try to get a lease from him, in which case I'd probably try to work something out with the rancher to where we can both hunt it. He's a great guy and was a good friend to my Grandpa.
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#6146730 - 01/21/16 12:12 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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When I was growing up we didn't pay lease fees to hunt on farmers land. We want and talked to them and offered half our deer once we got it processed. I would try this approach to see if maybe they will change their camping days. And then ask the owner to talk to them about property lines.
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#6146733 - 01/21/16 12:13 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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Tough situation. I would move my blind to the fence line and hunt the other direction.
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#6146737 - 01/21/16 12:15 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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Wish you the best, sounds like a tuff situation.
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#6146744 - 01/21/16 12:18 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: jsplinter]
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Originally Posted By: jsplinter
Regardless if they are there or not it is illegal to shoot if your bullet will cross the property line. So legally it shouldn't matter if they are there or not. You should be really asking yourself if you are set up in a direction and location to where you can make a legal shot.


I would agree with this. If your bow hunting it wouldn't be quite as much a problem other than the noise created.

Talking to them may help. I wouldn't mention that your shooting that direction with a rifle. That would really tick me off if my neighbor did that.

I have a few neighbors where we conduct our hunts. They drive around on the weekends sometimes. Take their AR out and let loose on the weekend. One of them must have got a new firearm for Christmas because right after that we could hear a box of 50 rounds go off every evening just before sunset and after 5pm. It's annoying as heck but legal and not really much I can do about it. It just disturbs the quiet nature out here that I like is what I'm saying. He's not firing towards my property.
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#6146747 - 01/21/16 12:20 PM Re: Neighbor Rant [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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How do you know your bullet will not cross the property line? 52 acres would be 500 yards by 500 yards if it was a square. A lot of people seem to think an elevated blind will keep a bullet in the dirt...that is just not true. If it were me, I would reconsider hunting with a high powered rifle.

As far as the neighbors are concerned, you should talk to the landowner first, if you can't get it settled...then talk to the GW, and turn in the photos. That should get it fixed.
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