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#6143793 - 01/19/16 04:55 PM Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint
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Gunna paint my barrel action and bottom metal with ceramic paint (aerosol cerakote basically, made by duplicolor) only trick is, it has to be baked on like cerakote. I don't want to do it in my oven as it will stink up the whole house. Im trying to figure out a creative way to do it. Top rack of the gas grill on low heat? I had an electric smoker that would have been perfect, but I sold it a while back. And it won't fit in my turkey roaster. I do have a propane fishfry burner too. Anybody have any creative ideas?
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#6143806 - 01/19/16 05:00 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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What temp does it need?
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#6143809 - 01/19/16 05:01 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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300 for 2 hours.

Really thinking my gas grill may do it. I'll just have to play with it for a bit to get the temp close.


Edited by Tff caribou (01/19/16 05:02 PM)
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#6143832 - 01/19/16 05:11 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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I do enough Cerakote that it made financial sense for me to just buy a 40" electric smoker with digital temp control.

However, as I was learning how and being as frugal as I could be, I used a different method. I built an el cheapo DIY oven using a 38" piece of ducting wrapped in insulation, with a pie pan for a lid, and a Wal-Mart hot plate as a heat source. It took some experimenting to get it all figured out, and it was not very efficient, but it got me by until I could buy a real oven. Just google up DIY cerakote oven, and you can get some ideas.

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#6143868 - 01/19/16 05:34 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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Been researching for a half hour now. Lots of guys have used a gas grill with great results.
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#6143882 - 01/19/16 05:43 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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My wife gave me a nice electric smoker last year. Does a great job, too!
grill

I've been wondering off and on for a long time how I could cure a Moly-Resin finish on a barreled action and the smoker never occurred to me. Perfect!
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#6144050 - 01/19/16 07:33 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Gunna paint my barrel action and bottom metal with ceramic paint (aerosol cerakote basically, made by duplicolor) only trick is, it has to be baked on like cerakote. I don't want to do it in my oven as it will stink up the whole house. Im trying to figure out a creative way to do it. Top rack of the gas grill on low heat? I had an electric smoker that would have been perfect, but I sold it a while back. And it won't fit in my turkey roaster. I do have a propane fishfry burner too. Anybody have any creative ideas?

Any experience w/this stuff? Is it the engine enamel (high heat) made by Duplicolor? I'd like to do a DIY coating on my G23 but don't want to use junk & can't justify the price of a professional job.
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#6144062 - 01/19/16 07:39 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: LFD2037]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Gunna paint my barrel action and bottom metal with ceramic paint (aerosol cerakote basically, made by duplicolor) only trick is, it has to be baked on like cerakote. I don't want to do it in my oven as it will stink up the whole house. Im trying to figure out a creative way to do it. Top rack of the gas grill on low heat? I had an electric smoker that would have been perfect, but I sold it a while back. And it won't fit in my turkey roaster. I do have a propane fishfry burner too. Anybody have any creative ideas?

Any experience w/this stuff? Is it the engine enamel (high heat) made by Duplicolor? I'd like to do a DIY coating on my G23 but don't want to use junk & can't justify the price of a professional job.


Yea, same stuff. No personal experience, but I've read lots of reviews and watched several videos of it.
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#6144125 - 01/19/16 08:13 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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I have been surprised at the capabilities of the newer toaster ovens. Small, cheap enough, big enough to bake two large pistol frames at once. For a barrel, you might have to get creative with 2 toaster ovens and some wide thermal tape.

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#6144135 - 01/19/16 08:16 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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I have a ceramic baking stone. I think I can put that on the grill grates to act as a diffuser, I already had a buddy build me some mounts to suspend the barrel and bottom metal. I'll update on how it works.
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#6144942 - 01/20/16 11:41 AM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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This was my original homebrew cerakote oven. Pretty chintzy, but I baked a lot of stuff in it until I upgraded. It would handle a barreled action no problem. I scrounged parts and built it for about $30. The thing that makes me nervous about using a grill or whatever that has been used for cooking is all the oil/grease it may have on it. Currently I use a 40" Masterbuilt smoker that has never had anything greasy or oily in it. It works way, way, way better than the old way.

Spraying Cerakote is not hard. Finding a way to bake it is not very hard. The key to success is your prep work. Do it right and you will get good results. Try and do it half-way, and it is highly probably you will want to go eat some rat poison. I would never sand parts for Cerakote application. I am sure some folks have gotten away with it, and you might. But the possibility of failure is significant. For me it is blast only. Use 100-120 grit aluminum oxide or garnet. Be sure the media you use has not been used for blasting anything greasy (note rat poison comment above). De-grease really good. Blast. De-gas at 250+ for 30 minutes. If there is even a hint of oil, de-grease and de-gas again. Most times you can get by without the de-gas, but eventually you will have a part that needs it. Mostly those parts that really need de-gas are cast. Like on Savage bolt parts, I have had trouble, as well as a few other minor parts. Good barrel and action steel I have never had trouble.




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#6146521 - 01/21/16 10:27 AM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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So, duplicolor makes a ceramic paint that doesn't have to be baked on, so I tried it yesterday. We will see how it holds up.
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#6146642 - 01/21/16 11:38 AM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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Are you bringing it to the shootout.
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#6146743 - 01/21/16 12:17 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: Tff caribou]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
So, duplicolor makes a ceramic paint that doesn't have to be baked on, so I tried it yesterday. We will see how it holds up.

That's a cool looking rig! Is that a B&C Medalist Tactical 2 stock? Keep us updated!
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#6147154 - 01/21/16 03:21 PM Re: Need a creative way to bake on cerakote type paint [Re: LFD2037]
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Are you bringing it to the shootout.


YEP! But I have to put some range time in the next couple weeks. I don't even know how it shoots right now. I've literally put 2 rounds through this rifle since I bought it, and that was when it was 100% stock.

Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
So, duplicolor makes a ceramic paint that doesn't have to be baked on, so I tried it yesterday. We will see how it holds up.

That's a cool looking rig! Is that a B&C Medalist Tactical 2 stock? Keep us updated!


Yes it is. I really like it.
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