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#6135821 - 01/14/16 02:52 PM Who beds their scope rails?
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Let's hear about it.
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Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.

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#6135881 - 01/14/16 03:40 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Not me. Figure four screws and low strength Locktite will hold it just fine. Some guys apply a strip of Locktite to the rail before assembly.
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#6135907 - 01/14/16 03:52 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Not me. Figure four screws and low strength Locktite will hold it just fine. Some guys apply a strip of Locktite to the rail before assembly.


I just reinstalled my EGW rail and used locktite this time. Hopefully that gets rid of the wobbles.
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#6135909 - 01/14/16 03:53 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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A good quality rail shouldn't need it. Cheap ones might

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#6135966 - 01/14/16 04:26 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Locktite base and rings and have quality base and rings. All ya need.
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#6135969 - 01/14/16 04:29 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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What good would bedding a scope base do? If the reciever isn't square, putting bedding compound between it and the rail isn't going to fix that right?
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#6135981 - 01/14/16 04:38 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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I'd be worried the bedding compound would mess things up more than they would help. The few that I have seen, had stuff seep into the action holes.
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#6136096 - 01/14/16 05:45 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Not me. Figure four screws and low strength Locktite will hold it just fine. Some guys apply a strip of Locktite to the rail before assembly.


I hate those guys.

I can see machine screws coming loose, but the glue under the rail is pointless, if the screws come loose at all, that loctite/adhesive ain't slowing that raildown let alone stopping it.

Scopes, mounts, bases, rails, set square and fitted properly, shouldn't need anything. I'll use loctite if there's any doubt, or if the customer asks for it, but I prefer none.

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#6136113 - 01/14/16 05:56 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Loctite lubes the threads and you end up turning screws in further than they should be with the same amount of torque applied.
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#6136124 - 01/14/16 06:05 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: RiverRider]
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If the screws are the proper length then it isn't a problem.
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#6136141 - 01/14/16 06:13 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Loctite lubes the threads and you end up turning screws in further than they should be with the same amount of torque applied.

1st I've heard of this. Interesting. I use loctite on tons of stuff, including scope rings/bases. Never really thought about this.
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#6136270 - 01/14/16 07:18 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
If the screws are the proper length then it isn't a problem.


We're talking about over-torquing as a result, JG.
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#6136311 - 01/14/16 07:34 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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Originally Posted By: ImTheReasonDovesMourn
Who beds their scope rails?

I'm assuming by "rails" you are talking about the scope base(s). It all depends, hunting or target rifle? For the average hunting rifle, NO. But I just bedded the base on a target rifle as a matter of course. The idea is to remove all points of stress in the rifle's orchestrated "system". A base that doesn't fit perfectly flat to the top of the receiver will apply stress when tightened down. Same with unaligned rings or a bad fitting stock. The complete process takes some work, but bedding the base & rings may add a 1/4" improvement to a target rifle.

FWIW...
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#6136316 - 01/14/16 07:36 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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I have always though it interesting that we use heavy duty scope rings with 4-6 screws each (8-12 for a pair) and then have big bolts holding them to a rail. When it is all held down to the rifle by four tiny screws.
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#6136356 - 01/14/16 07:54 PM Re: Who beds their scope rails? [Re: ImTheReasonDovesMourn]
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I've wasted too much time and ammo on cheap rings, but can't break the habit of using loctite. Once that scope is on and working, I just want it to stay there. The loctite just makes me feel better.

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