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#6135627 - 01/14/16 12:53 PM virgin brass...? Chad..?
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so i am doing further load development on my Gap-10. it has a very tight match chamber. I know that "fire formed brass" is supposedly more consistent/accurate. however the shoulder is only set back .005 from my chamber. will it really effect my load development if i choose to use the virgin brass?
not that it matters but my data is as follows
gap-10 20"
.308
new win brass
178 amax
42-44 gr of varget
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#6135647 - 01/14/16 01:03 PM Re: virgin brass...? Chad..? [Re: Kyle Horn]
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It may change it up some. Just keep the head stamps the same. If you do a partial sizing, make sure they will chamber. I'd recommend a FL sizing for a gas gun.
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#6136046 - 01/14/16 05:19 PM Re: virgin brass...? Chad..? [Re: Kyle Horn]
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it is all Winchester. all FL sized. i guess i suck at asking my question correctly, but what i mean is virgin Winchester brass has shoulders sized.005-.007 deeper than my chamber. when i full length size i usually only bump back about .004" therefor these will have an extra .002-.003 to expand, will that aspect effect load development or accuracy?

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#6136069 - 01/14/16 05:33 PM Re: virgin brass...? Chad..? [Re: Kyle Horn]
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It can. I'll verify my load again from virgin brass to once fired brass. I normally don't see much difference. I did see some differences in my 6.5x47 Lapua from virgin brass to once fired. I sized it with a slight bump of .003", and picked up about 50 fps and had some sticky bolt lift. So, I may need to reduce my load a touch. It also didn't put them in the same hole like they did with the virgin brass.
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#6136076 - 01/14/16 05:35 PM Re: virgin brass...? Chad..? [Re: Kyle Horn]
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So it's Actually NEW brass? If so there may be a slight change in pressure thus velocity once you resize but not enough to fret over and there is nothing you can do but fire and resize to suit yourself.
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#6136094 - 01/14/16 05:45 PM Re: virgin brass...? Chad..? [Re: Kyle Horn]
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so load develope with the virgin, then fine tune with once fired... i guess it sounds like i was being too OCD about the extra .002-.003 of setback

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#6136114 - 01/14/16 05:57 PM Re: virgin brass...? Chad..? [Re: Kyle Horn]
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Originally Posted By: Kyle Horn
so load develope with the virgin, then fine tune with once fired... i guess it sounds like i was being too OCD about the extra .002-.003 of setback


Exactly what I do. Most of the time your load with new brass will be very close to what you get with fire formed brass. Sometimes exactly works or sometimes a tenth or two more or less gets you there.
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