Ok, due to several pms from another thread, here are pics of the thrower I offered to sell. It's an Atlas AT250, holds 250 clays. Adjusts vertically and tilts from side to side. I've had it about 1 1/2 years. It was bought new by a friend of mine. It was never a commercial machine. Its in perfect condition. With the trailer its mounted on and the non pneumatic tires(no flats), its about $1600ish new. I'll take $1000 for it. I'm really not interested in letting it go for less.