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#6122365 - 01/06/16 03:05 PM Thermal and Night Vision Review
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I will be taking these units outside tonight and get pics of what they look like at night. The scopes are a Pulsar Apex 50 a Pulsar Phantom in gen 2+ white phosphor and a Sightmark Photon XT 4.6. If anyone has any questions or suggestions please let me know. I will try and get the pictures done tonight. We will have a 17% visible moon tonight so please keep that in mind.

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#6122617 - 01/06/16 04:50 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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I'm looking forward to it. We have just this year seen trail cam pics of a sounder of pigs and we really want to kill (control)them as fast as we can, really don't want them there.
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#6122834 - 01/06/16 06:48 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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#6123134 - 01/06/16 09:23 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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I have a pulsar apex ona .308. It's great!
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#6123530 - 01/07/16 08:32 AM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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Got rained out last night. If anyone wants to see pics of any Sightmark and Pulsar products please let me know. I work for them and I will do my best to post some pictures at night.

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#6123827 - 01/07/16 11:02 AM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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#6124021 - 01/07/16 12:17 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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That's not right to just throw that teaser out there and not talk about it

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#6124042 - 01/07/16 12:27 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
HansAg Offline
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Thermal is the Apex 30 from Pulsar. Image quality is great, and I'll go as far as saying looking at deer up to 100 yards away you can even see their heart light up as the brightest spot on their body. After 100 yards, you still have a great detailed image. Specs say up to 1000m range, haven't tested anything that far yet. Really like the Picture in Picture mode on the Apex - gives a smaller PIP window at the top at full zoom on the reticle. Allows you to line up the first shot at full zoom without losing your full wide view of all the other pigs that are next in line. Just got the AR. Its a DMPS .308 by panther arms. No upgrades yet to the gun, but have been extremely satisfied with it so far.
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#6124237 - 01/07/16 02:18 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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Thanks for posting the pic of the Apex. Once again I am truly sorry about not posting pictures up yet but we got rained out and I will do my best to get actual pictures of the units at night up.

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#6124544 - 01/07/16 05:26 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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HansAg, how do you think that Apex 30 rates next to the XD series? I don't know enough about them yet to compare

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#6125628 - 01/08/16 11:29 AM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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I apologize, its an Apex XD38A (its still brand new to me). When I was comparing, I looked at the XD38/XD50 and found they were very similar. The 50 is a step up for sure, but I saved a grand and got the 38. This is the first one I have owned, but was introduced to a wide range of thermals from a good buddy who is in the business of selling them now. Got to test a couple in each price range, up to 20k. Don't get me wrong, if you have that kind of money to spend, there are much better products out there than the XD series by Apex. I think the Apex is a great buy for the price, the XD38 and the XD50.

Did I mention I love having a thermal? clap


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#6125963 - 01/08/16 02:27 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
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That's a sharp looking setup HansAg. If you ever want to look at some of the thermal monos down the road let me know. I can definitely come on over and give a demo.

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#6136819 - 01/15/16 08:06 AM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
HansAg Offline
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OP did you ever get to take some more photos? I ordered my DVR so I will have some soon!

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#6139544 - 01/16/16 11:51 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: Jethrowins]
Jethrowins Offline
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Registered: 10/30/14
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Not yet. Going out of town this week but if anyone wants to see thermal vs gen 2 and 3 let me know. I should have them up in 2 weeks

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#6140316 - 01/17/16 05:35 PM Re: Thermal and Night Vision Review [Re: HansAg]
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Originally Posted By: HansAg
Image quality is great, and I'll go as far as saying looking at deer up to 100 yards away you can even see their heart light up as the brightest spot on their body.


LOL, You cannot see their heart light up as the brightest spot on the body. Thermal reads the external temperatures and not internal temperatures. It does not have X-ray capabilities. With that said, you may be seeing the arm pit show up as brighter. You get some mutual heating between the back of the front leg and the lower side of the body that causes the area to show up better. Or, it may be that there is less hair there and that you are seeing more heat radiating from the less-well covered skin of that area, but it is not the heart.

You can see the same sort of armpit heating on humans as well.
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