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Re: protien?
[Re: txbobcat]
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01/12/16 06:05 PM
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What natural forage are your deer eating any sizeable quantity of that is over 16% protein ?
Sorry. I just saw your question. Deer will seek out the higher quality natural foods on any given piece of property. Obviously the time of year and rain dictates what natural high quality food is available. Some of the different plants I can remember off the top of my head that our wildlife biologist pointed out were lespedeza, partridge peas, several clovers, bundleflower, and mesquite beans. All of these are 20% or higher in protein. He recommended we plant additional partridge peas, bundleflower and clovers since we have the fields to do so. Deer prefer forbs and the forbs that deer seek out are going to be high in protein. Typically, it becomes drier in the summer and that is when the better quality natural forage is not available. In a dry summer, you would want to bump up your protein to a 20%. Last year, that was not necessary. With the wet year we had last year, we did not feed more than 16% protein.
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Re: protien?
[Re: stxranchman]
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01/12/16 06:35 PM
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If increase in protein would not increase antler growth 10-20% the first year, then how do we see growth swings of that much in just one wet year? If we could only duplicate that kind of nutrition/mineral increase in a simple protein pellet form.... Perfect example of this. We killed a buck last week that scored 158 4/8. He was at least 8 1/2 years old. I can't eyeball tooth wear beyond that. The deer was 130's last year and was on the hit list as a cull. One guy saw him and let him walk last season and we never saw him again. He showed up this past Saturday morning and his days were over. I really think the deer was older than 8 1/2, but can't be sure. That said, we feed 20% protein free-choice except during hunting season. Last year we fed about 60 tons when that mature deer was in the 130's. This year we fed 7 tons. Why? Timely rainfall throughout the year produced tons and tons of natural forage (forbs and healthy shrubs). Very little supplemental feed (protein) was needed by the animals. The 158 4/8 jumped at least 20 inches this year. Why?
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Re: protien?
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01/12/16 06:40 PM
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I agree with most of what you say John, but when range conditions are good, the deer are typically eating natural forage that is higher than 16% protein. I absolutely feed 20% when conditions warrant helping increase the average protein percentage consumed. My point was that it is not necessary to feed 20% when there is good natural forage. What natural forage are your deer eating any sizeable quantity of that is over 16% protein ? https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_bk_w7000_0183.pdfOurs eat all of the above in Table 1.
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