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#6120735 - 01/05/16 05:57 PM protien?
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Loc: bastrop county
have always fed corn, thinking about protein, what brand?
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#6120924 - 01/05/16 07:24 PM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
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Purina is a popular choice
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#6120930 - 01/05/16 07:28 PM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
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I have fed Lyssy & Eckels for the last 12 yrs now, but it is not available in all areas. If not then I would choose Sportsman Choice from Acco or a really good regional mill protein close to your area. Cheap feed does not always equate to good feed.
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#6121638 - 01/06/16 09:31 AM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
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I use Antlemax by Purina because it is available locally and is fresh. Check your suppliers for what is available and go from there. Cheap is not always cheap.
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#6121684 - 01/06/16 09:50 AM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
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I use Lyssy and Eckels now that they have a store in Llano. Before that we used Record Rack as that was the best 20% we could get. Check out the trace mineral package of what's available in your area and pick the best.

I have noticed the deer seem to "like" the L&E better. They definitely take it down faster.
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#6121709 - 01/06/16 10:03 AM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
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We feed sportsman's choice, would feed L&E if it was readily available to us.
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#6122028 - 01/06/16 12:23 PM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
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we use purina and have used Lyssy - both quality feeds
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#6122102 - 01/06/16 01:03 PM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
Zach S Offline
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Registered: 08/29/14
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Mostly used Record Rack as Mason Feed Store has it but have also used purina with no issues.

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#6122123 - 01/06/16 01:16 PM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
ThreePeppers Offline
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Has anyone used Red Chain Feeds from Gorman Milling? Their 20% is peanut based and under $10/bag. I've been thinking about trying them but haven't seen the complete analysis tag.

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#6122146 - 01/06/16 01:27 PM Re: protien? [Re: ThreePeppers]
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Originally Posted By: ThreePeppers
Has anyone used Red Chain Feeds from Gorman Milling? Their 20% is peanut based and under $10/bag. I've been thinking about trying them but haven't seen the complete analysis tag.


You won't be dissapointed...best stuff I have fed yet

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#6122535 - 01/06/16 04:12 PM Re: protien? [Re: Accutrigger33]
ThreePeppers Offline
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Good to know.

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#6123152 - 01/06/16 09:30 PM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
glocker17 Offline
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Have always used the freshest 20% that was available in my area. Does the deer prefer one brand over another or do the eat whatever if put out?

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#6123187 - 01/06/16 09:43 PM Re: protien? [Re: Accutrigger33]
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Originally Posted By: Accutrigger33
Originally Posted By: ThreePeppers
Has anyone used Red Chain Feeds from Gorman Milling? Their 20% is peanut based and under $10/bag. I've been thinking about trying them but haven't seen the complete analysis tag.


You won't be dissapointed...best stuff I have fed yet


I Second Red Chain. Stuff smells like peanut butter and the deer hit it harder than any other brand I have tried. The mineral content is good and includes probiotics and prebiotics for improved nutrient absorption and a healthy digestive system.

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#6123217 - 01/06/16 09:53 PM Re: protien? [Re: colt45]
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I'll add that during good range conditions, 20% is overkill. Anything they eat over 16% is just pooped out.

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#6123331 - 01/07/16 12:30 AM Re: protien? [Re: Big_Ag]
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Originally Posted By: Big_Ag
I'll add that during good range conditions, 20% is overkill. Anything they eat over 16% is just pooped out.


VERY common misconception. This was propagated by a CONTROLLED study of PENNED deer who were fed NOTHING BUT CONTROLLED FEED. The number that was PUBLISHED and often quoted is that deer only can use/enable/process about 16% protein in their TOTAL feed.

The reality on a wild, LF ranch - the deer are going to be eating a LOT more than just the feed you put out. Who knows what protein/nutritional value it has. This is why they make deer feed in high protein percentage than 16%, otherwise it would be useless.

If your natural browse on your ranch is nutritionally poor, you can benefit from feed a higher percentage protein. VERY few natural browse on ranches in Texas have a 16% protein content. And those that do, don't need to feed protein anyway.

If you are breeding deer, and have breeding/holding pens, and are controlling their feed totally - then yes, don't buy/use more than 16%. However, if you are supplementally feeding wild deer in a free range environment where What, How much, and nutritional content is unknown - you very well can benefit from higher percentage.

For those who disagree with me - think about this. You have some feed that is 10% and some feed that is 16%. You mix 5 pounds of each - what the gross protein percentage of that 10 pounds of feed. If you said anything but 13%, then you need to check your math.

Now go out to your ranch. If your natural browse is 10% and you supplement feed 16% - and a deer eats the same about of each - what is the gross percentage of protein consumed? Again, only 13%.

Of course this is NOT quite accurate because a deer could eat natural one day and pellets the next, it won't be evenly mixed or processed by the deer's gut - but you get the idea.

The point is that buying/using feeds with 20%, 25%, or even 30% protein can - in some circumstance - very appropriate. That's why they make it.

For example, on one of my leases I use a timed Lamco trough feeder and drop a small amount of protein - I run mixed of feed from 26% to 30% because I know (through cam activity, etc.) that the deer are only eating a few handfuls of this feed per day, and the rest of what they are eating is nutritionally poor (usually).


Edited by John Humbert (01/07/16 12:31 AM)

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