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#6120195 - 01/05/16 01:52 PM Ar-15
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Anyone know any good ar-15 for under $750 or so? I need it for south Texas hog hunting and the hogs are out of control.


Edited by Trout3006 (01/05/16 01:53 PM)

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#6120220 - 01/05/16 02:02 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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#6120336 - 01/05/16 02:55 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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Remember you can always build it instead of buying complete.

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#6120361 - 01/05/16 03:02 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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The only warning I give to those trying to build instead of buy, especially if cost is a big driver, is to consider all the tool costs too. Every person has different tools at their disposal, be it your own or stuff u can borrow. On one end of u have a wide set of punches, wrenches, clamps and access to borrowed ar specific tools then it's literally cost of materials only.

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#6120440 - 01/05/16 03:39 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Korean Redneck]
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Originally Posted By: Korean Redneck
The only warning I give to those trying to build instead of buy, especially if cost is a big driver, is to consider all the tool costs too. Every person has different tools at their disposal, be it your own or stuff u can borrow. On one end of u have a wide set of punches, wrenches, clamps and access to borrowed ar specific tools then it's literally cost of materials only.


The other piece of that, as mentioned in the other thread, is that Frankenrifles usually bring much less versus factory guns should you need to sell it.
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#6120479 - 01/05/16 03:50 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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Registered: 10/26/15
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Loc: Texas, Harris county
Mines made by battle rifle company they are based about ten minutes from me in clear lake I've put a couple thousand rounds through it and never had a single failure I would definitely buy from them again

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#6120555 - 01/05/16 04:24 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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#6120605 - 01/05/16 04:54 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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my suggestion for a new AR guy is to get a rifle and then modify as you see fit once using the gun a couple times. I bought a relatively cheap gun in a Smith and Wesson M&P15 optics ready, and since then, I have dropped a new trigger (highly recommend the gissele SSA-E) and changed out the hand rail to free float the barrel (which required me to change out the gas block too), and then changed out the grip and stock.

I had a very useable gun until I acquired all the pieces and tools and then went about fixing it up in one day. Was a very fun day for me filled with lots of youtube videos and some trial and error, but in the end, my rifle works great and the mods made a noticeable difference to performance and comfort.

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#6120796 - 01/05/16 06:27 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Korean Redneck]
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Originally Posted By: Korean Redneck
The only warning I give to those trying to build instead of buy, especially if cost is a big driver, is to consider all the tool costs too. Every person has different tools at their disposal, be it your own or stuff u can borrow. On one end of u have a wide set of punches, wrenches, clamps and access to borrowed ar specific tools then it's literally cost of materials only.


But then you should also consider the cost of buying a factory rifle and then changing out parts to upgrade it to what you want. If you are buying a rifle, swapping the trigger, front rail, gas block, grip, and stock, then what parts did you pay for in the beginning? You paid $750 for a lower, LPK without the trigger, upper, barrel, BCG, tube, buffer, and spring. And what are you doing with those parts you pulled off? Sell them? They aren't worth much if you can actually find a buyer so they go into storage or into the trash. For the price of those tossed parts, you probably could have bought the tools needed.

For the first AR, buying a factory rifle might be a good idea so you figure out what you really want on the rifle and then upgrade. But if it's going to turn into several rifles, then building might be the way to go.
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#6121223 - 01/05/16 09:53 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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Is there also a difference between the 223 and the 556 national?

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#6121242 - 01/05/16 10:08 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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It's a pressure issue, guns with .223 are rated to shoot only .223 rounds which have less pressure than the military 5.56 round. A 5.56 stamped gun will shoot both. Very slight differences in both and some people say that guns rated for each should only shoot each and not interchange due to throat issues and bullet seat depth and stuff like that, but most people say that's a moot point. Best thing to do if you want an AR is get one rated for 5.56, then you don't need to worry about it.

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#6122110 - 01/06/16 01:09 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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So getting a 556 you can still shoot that round and a .223 right. Kinda like a .357 mag with .38 special rounds

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#6122144 - 01/06/16 01:26 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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you are correct

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#6122424 - 01/06/16 03:30 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
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You can also get a 223 Wylde which will shoot .223 and 5.56.
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#6123280 - 01/06/16 10:31 PM Re: Ar-15 [Re: Trout3006]
Trout3006 Offline
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What is also the best twist rate for an Ar

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