Only thing I can think of, in my situation, is that me being the only trustee of the trust I'm the only one that will have to submit the finger prints and photos and background check. But if something were to happen to me my wife is my beneficiary so the NFA items would be then passed onto her and she could either sell them or keep them and wouldn't have to repay the $200 tax stamp for each item. Not sure what happens to NFA items if you're buying it as an individual without a trust. If you die, do they just get forfeited and go to the ATF to be destroyed? Does a family member have a chance to have them passed down, but would still have to go through the registration process and pay $200 per item?

Step 2 is a nationwide gun registry....pay attention...it's coming.

I will say as I read the reg this would not effect private sellers selling to each other...only guys who are "dealers" selling used guns. Now, define "dealers"...that is the grey area here.

TXG308 - I don't read the reg to effect two THF'ers selling a gun to have to go to an FFL to do the deal. Just if you sell a used gun (stupid, stupid, stupid...but that is how I read it). Or I'm miss-interpreting the reg (which wouldn't be a first, I'm a software guy not a lawyer )

That is an effect. No more parkinglot purchases. No more mailing a rifle from one man to another within the state.

Yet criminals will continue to get their hands on what ever they want. Short barreled shotgun, all you need is a saw. SBR, all you need is a lathe. Full auto rifles, just basic tools. Suppressors can be made from household items.

This EO will do zero to curb crime, yet make life more of a PITA for law abiding citizens, same as most other gun laws.

I'm not a lawyer.
I believe for an individual, you can inherit the NFA items one time without any new tax stamp, but there is Form 3 paperwork. When that person dies, then the next heir would have to pay $200 for each NFA tax stamp and do the Form 3 paperwork.

The real issue here is the malicious intent of these laws. In spite of the Democratic rhetoric, the long term intent of the party is very clear: virtually total firearm confiscation. The party, as defined by the urban masses, hates hunting as a sport and views firearms as weapons, not as sporting goods. These new laws were created out of their sense of frustration with Congress and are intended as active legal instruments of harassment, since it's clear they will have **no** effect on crime. They are designed to harass ordinary gun owners.

Consider 41p. How many legally registered Class 3 items are used in crimes? Virtually none. Tightening up the requirements of Class 3 ownership can have **no** effect on major crime statistics. It is intended to harass Class 3 owners, virtually all of whom comprise a group of the most law abiding citizens in America. If your sole intent was to protect the American public, why on Earth would you tighten regulation where it was demonstrably unneeded and could have no effect?

Make no mistake, the intent of these laws is to harass and ultimately destroy. They are a demonstration of malicious intent by an administration that's politically impotent and wants to lash out at its adversaries.

As has been stated several times. Private sales will still not require a background check. Guys just can't be "gun dealers" anymore without doing background checks. Guys who use gun sales as a form of income on a regular basis.

And SHOCKING to see an FFL on this thread happy about a new order that he believes will bring him more FFL X-fer business yet claims he his pro 2nd amendment. Laughable.

Cbs mentioned that some courts have said selling one nib gun could be construed as in the business...


It all depends on definition of in the business. Supposedly the atf will release guidance

What do you guys think will happen to people who are already in the process of buying class 3 items? I have paid for and submitted a form 3 on 3 suppressors that I am awaiting approval on.

And SHOCKING to see an FFL on this thread happy about a new order that he believes will bring him more FFL X-fer business yet claims he his pro 2nd amendment. Laughable.

What do you guys think will happen to people who are already in the process of buying class 3 items? I have paid for and submitted a form 3 on 3 suppressors that I am awaiting approval on.

And SHOCKING to see an FFL on this thread happy about a new order that he believes will bring him more FFL X-fer business yet claims he his pro 2nd amendment. Laughable.

The ATF guidance is posted in this thread already. Look up.

Whom are you referring to? Certainly not me; I never said or implied anything of the sort. I only stated IF a background check is required then going through an FFL would accomplish this.

People, he's not "taking away" your guns. I haven't fully read exactly what the new "rules" will be exactly. But the summary of what I have read is ALL individuals will need to have a background check when buying a gun, known as the "gun show loop hole". Once the original person buys a firearm from a dealer (with a background check) and later wants to sell that firearm, the original buyer can sell it to whomever they want. The new buyer does not go through a background check. This new rule will require the new buyer to have a background check. I have never understood why (me as an 01 FFL dealer) must go through all this paperwork to be licensed and the purchaser have to get the background check, when once the firearm leaves the dealer, the firearm can go anywhere or sold to anyone, without a background check. Honestly, I'm for this. Think about that for a second. It's common sense. I may get flack for saying that, but it only makes sense for ANYONE buying a firearm to have the proper background check as the original buyer did. If you can not pass a common background check, or have been declared mentally unstable, then you probably should not have a gun. I'm a hard core Republican, and huge pro 2nd amendment, but there does need to be some common sense to ALL firearms transactions.