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#6118352 - 01/04/16 03:37 PM improving our ranch
jdpwolf Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 54
We have a ranch in Jack County and was looking for help to improve the quality of deer on it. It is a low fence property so deer come and go as they please. What food plots grow well in the soil up with average rainfall for that county there that we can plant to attract and hold deer on the property? Additionally, what can we do in terms of supplements (e.g., mineral blocks, salt blocks, etc) could we put out to improve racks of the bucks for next year? There is at 5 ponds on the property, so water for the deer is not a problem. Any information is appreciated.

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#6118380 - 01/04/16 03:56 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
ctonsmitty Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 280
1) How many acres is the ranch?

2) The #1 thing you can do and is let your quality deer reach at least 5.5 years old and cull out your less desirable bucks. I hope you have a 5-7 year plan because it will take a lot of time before you consistently see quality bucks. It is still fun to shoot the cull bucks, but you CANNOT shoot your quality bucks for several years. It is something most hunters fail at because they don't have the patience.

Can your group let a 4.5 year old 10,11, 12 pt walk? If the answer is NO, then your success rate in achieving max success is limited.

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#6118395 - 01/04/16 04:05 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
jdpwolf Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 54
Ranch is approx 200 acres...largest bucks this year was an 8 point. This is the average "trophy" on the ranch. As I said, it's a low fence ranch. We let all 8 pts walk this year, but a cousin shot an 11 pt.

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#6118418 - 01/04/16 04:19 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
ctonsmitty Offline
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Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 280
200 low fence acres will be tough to keep quality bucks alive to reach 5.5 years old (unless you have like minded neighbors surrounding the property)

with this being said, you can put out (1) 1000# protein feeder in the center of property + a few mineral stations at each water hole. It will help but not guarantee success ***DO NOT hunt the protein feeder

Was the 11 pt a 5.5+ year old buck? Points don't matter... age does!!! do not shoot any 2.5,3.5 year olds with potential, shoot your sub-quality 4.5 year old (9pt or less) ….DO NOT shoot a 10pt unless it is 5.5 years old or older

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#6118422 - 01/04/16 04:21 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
jdpwolf Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 54
We didn't get to see the 11 pt. by mineral station, what do you mean exactly?

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#6118435 - 01/04/16 04:33 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
Navasot Offline
Natty Love

Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 25936
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
Food plots like oats are always going to help if you are able to plant enough property. Free choice on that size property wont help you with antler growth to notice but will bring in more deer IF you keep the feeder/feeders full..

As far as getting bucks bigger you have to let them get old... its THE biggest factor when wanting bigger deer. going by points will not help. A lot of areas minerals are abundant but you can do anything from bagged mineral or liquid mineral sights.. I just find a few places on the property clear a small area and dump liquid mineral on it... Ill do this once every month or so. My property is 40acres and other than just bow hunting strictly, feeding as much as possible even letting corn feeders run during off season and letting deer get older have been the best help.
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#6118437 - 01/04/16 04:34 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
ctonsmitty Offline
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Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 280
mineral station….go to the feed store and buy Redmond's #10 fine salt mineral and Redmonds 44lb salt block. It is the exact same mineral in trophy rock only you will get 44lbs for about $12-13 per bag/block vs $15 for the 8 pound rock.

make sure it is Redmond's ……put the block on the ground and pour salt around the block. They will destroy it in the summer time!!! (put it out in April-September)

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#6118477 - 01/04/16 04:55 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
jdpwolf Offline
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 54
great...thanks...any other information will be appreciated. Navasot, will the oats grow without us watering them? We live two hours away so watering them is problematic

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#6118493 - 01/04/16 05:05 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
Navasot Offline
Natty Love

Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 25936
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
Hopefully rain will take care of that part but how you plant them will matter too. If you can its good to at least mow and disc the ground up then spread the seed then cover with a drag. If you have the right type of soil and enough rain just spreading seed out over simple mowed ground will do the trick if mother nature helps and birds don't clean you out.. you will see a big difference in yield with putting the seed in the ground.
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#6119727 - 01/05/16 10:34 AM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
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Natty Love

Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 25936
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
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#6121033 - 01/05/16 08:20 PM Re: improving our ranch [Re: jdpwolf]
fishon9917 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 15
Loc: Dallas, texas
Only 200 acres? You could be wasting money. Say you managed and only shot 4.5 old deer you could be waiting a long time. If I had 10,000 to 20,000 acres it would be a different story. Sounds like you have a meat lease.

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