The Swedish military have been shooting heavy for caliber, high bc 6.5 mm bullets out of fast twist barrels since the late 1800's. We caught on last

Okay, so it wasn't black powder, my chronological error...it was very early on in the smokeless era and powder selection was not a concept at the time and heavy bullets were still the trend because of the limitations of black powder. To say that they were all about BC back then is completely ridiculous. Sectional density for penetration's sake, maybe. But not BC.

Looks like "BC-on-the-brain" is in full epidemic mode.

Seems like the up-swing for the 6.5, other than the LR Benchrest guys with their 6.5X284's and 6.5X47's, started when GA Precision started shooting sniper matches with the .243 105gr bullets, they weren't quite good enough, so they tried the .260, it took off followed by the 6.5 Creedmoor with all the marketing and Hype by the boys at Ruger & Hornady brought to its place at the top as "the caliber" to have now.

Then GA Precision came out with their 6.5 SAUM which lit a few pants on fire but has since faded. I ate the bait when I watched Brush Country Monsters TV Show and saw the McWhorter Rifle boys shooting deer a long way off with their 6.5 Weatherby Magnums & Berger 140gr VLD, so I jumped on that band wagon.

I guess my point is, these are ALL, GREAT cartridges, are some a tiny bit better? Sure, do the ALL get the job done? Sure.

As it always goes on this forum, everyone LOVES what they have because they have a Chit load of money invested and have to justify it. That's what there are SO many choices and thank God there are all these choices.

So, it don't make a hill of beans if you like Tikka, Swarovski, Mils or MOA, Dialing or holding off, Vortex, BSA, Weatherby, Winchester, Yada, Yada, Yada, if you got it and like it then God Bless.

So can this thread be left alone to die now?

I am very biased as I have worked for Weatherby since 1995. So I'll just add this.
You don't hear of many people shooting at 600 yards with a Weatherby because the majority of people that own them only hunt with them and are not target shooters.
Does it the help the guy that doesn't shoot a whole lot but hunts a lot? Yes a little, especially out to 400 yards. With a little studying a person and sight in correctly and kill a deer size target with ease out to those ranges. That covers the bulk of deer and elk hunting. I know this is true for most all calibers but the extra speed does help in the wind and being a little flatter is an advantage to the common guy. The added velocity at longer shots also delivers more pounds of energy.
Are Weatherby calibers faster and shoot flatter than others without reloading. Yes with a few exceptions.
Are there people that shoot Weatherby calibers past 600?
Yes lots. I know of two shooting schools that Include a Weatherby 30-378 with a custom scope in the price of their school. The schools specialize in teaching 1000 yard shooting. They sell around 700 packages a year at each school so I know 1400 people a year learn to shoot at 1000 yards with a Weatherby caliber.
The comments that a Weatherby thread always get my attention. As they say there ain't no such thing as bad advertising as long as people are talking about it.
Everyone deserves their opinion and thankfully 60k people thought Weatherby was the gun to buy last year!
By the way I follow and read the stuff JG and Chad do pretty close. I appreciate it all and wish I had the time to do the stuff these guys do.
Happy New Year Guys

There are lots of cartridges to choose from out there, and there are a lot of different folks out there choosing them based on some pretty unique outlooks and purposes. Each and every cartridge is a compromise in some respect, so it has to come down to what appeals to the guy who's looking at them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

An example...I have absolutely NO interest in the .300 Blackout. It seems silly to me. Other guys look at it and their hearts throb. They have their reasons for loving it and I have my own reasons for not ever glancing at it ever again. I don't see any point in feuding over such things or trying to push beliefs off on others.

There are lots of cartridges to choose from out there, and there are a lot of different folks out there choosing them based on some pretty unique outlooks and purposes. Each and every cartridge is a compromise in some respect, so it has to come down to what appeals to the guy who's looking at them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

An example...I have absolutely NO interest in the .300 Blackout. It seems silly to me. Other guys look at it and their hearts throb. They have their reasons for loving it and I have my own reasons for not ever glancing at it ever again. I don't see any point in feuding over such things or trying to push beliefs off on others.

Is the 270 110 accubond designed for 270 speeds or for a 6.8?