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#6106343 - 12/28/15 02:19 PM Powder measures and Extruded powders
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To keep from derailing another thread...

Who has figured out techniques for metering extruded powders and keeping variations down to a couple of tenths of a grain? It has never worked for me, and I've used five or six different measures.
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#6106345 - 12/28/15 02:21 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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And I'll add: I don't load with variations greater than the accuracy potential of any scale I use.
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#6106348 - 12/28/15 02:24 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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It can't, by the nature of the powder. It clumps up and bridges between charges. You go to a different powder that will meter. There are plenty of good powders that can meter well and be in the burn rate of the extruded powder you are trying to use.
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#6106352 - 12/28/15 02:28 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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I agree. I use my Charge master for extruded powders with few exceptions like Benchmark and LT-32. Some guys say it can be done, I just don't see how.
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#6106354 - 12/28/15 02:30 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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I'm not sure if this is technical enough, but there are powder tricklers that meter basically to the pellet/flake. The old ones RCBS use to make work well for extruded powders like Reloader 25 but tends to clump on things like H110.



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#6106381 - 12/28/15 02:48 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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I have one of those too, but it has nothing to do with making a measure, like a UniFlow, drop consistent charges of something like H4831.
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#6106464 - 12/28/15 03:33 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/772151/...-combo-110-volt

^ +/- one tenth of one grain.

Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.

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#6106471 - 12/28/15 03:35 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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He's talking about for a progressive machine. The powder trickler and RCBS chargemaster are for single stage loading.
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#6106495 - 12/28/15 03:51 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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the Varget was flowing smooth from my ChargeMaster this morning, don't think it over charged but a couple and only by .01 grain.

must be the moisture in the air and I turned off the heater so the fan wouldn't blow me.
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#6106568 - 12/28/15 04:39 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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Going to try the new Lee Auto-Drum.

Videos on YouTube.com and reviews on other sites. Both MidwayUSA and Grafs are out...back ordered with Midway USA.
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#6106629 - 12/28/15 05:08 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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hummmmmm
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#6106792 - 12/28/15 06:19 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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I am talking strictly about measures like the UniFlo, Lee "Perfect" (hahahaha), Lyman 55, that sort of measure. I know about the Chargemaster, I use one. I am not asking how to trickle up, or what gadgets make that easier (I have those too).

I am asking if anyone knows how to get a UniFlo to drop consistent charges of coarse extruded powders, and by "consistent" I mean +/- 0.05 grain.
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#6106808 - 12/28/15 06:27 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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you may have to go to a Harrell Culver type measure but benchresters like them but most of those guys like ball powder which meters more precise. My Uni Flow will always "crunch" long extruded powders. I went to the short cut variables re; 4831SC, 7828SSC, it solved most problems.

When I want the most accurate load, I use ChargeMaster or a beam scale and trickle the last few grains.


so to answer your question...no way
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#6108197 - 12/29/15 01:47 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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If you find something within .05 grains, PLEASE let me know. That's within 2 kernels of gun powder on a metered powder thrower. If you mean within .5, or half a grain, that's doable.
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#6108246 - 12/29/15 02:28 PM Re: Powder measures and Extruded powders [Re: RiverRider]
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The resolution of common electronic scales is 0.1 grain, so what you see on the display should be within 0.05 but I do realize that would depend on the quality of the strain cell and the electronics.
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