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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
[Re: S.A. hunter]
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12/24/15 04:23 AM
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The further north you go the bigger, Bergmann's rule. As a rule, yes. However, South Texas deer are considerably larger than their northern cousins in the Hill Country.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/24/15 01:22 PM
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The further north you go the bigger, Bergmann's rule. As a rule, yes. However, South Texas deer are considerably larger than their northern cousins in the Hill Country. I hear its because of the oak leaves....
If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/24/15 02:05 PM
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I know The deer north of Childress yall are talking about being big bodied. The GW up there ( great guy) told me, he didnt know why but there is a strain of deer in that area that resemble Kansas deer ( some with double throat patches and different look about them) he said they are just noticeably larger.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/24/15 04:55 PM
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S.A. hunter
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Just looking at the pics on here you can obviously tell which deer are from up north. They look like damn cows. I drive around south and central texas all week, and I've never seen one and thought now that's a big bodied deer. Maybe the racks are big but not the bidies. I can honestly say south Texas deer have nothing on north Texas deer.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
[Re: notamtchance]
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12/24/15 09:00 PM
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I have hunted North and South Texas. All of the 200+lb deer I have taken have come from South Texas with the heaviest being 242 lbs. My vote is South Texas.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 02:09 AM
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Panhandle. Seen some whoppers; Though. Kent, Borden and Scurry Counties. With that said.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 02:27 AM
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Panhandle along the Red River. Keep going north. The Ag feilds north of dalhart, cactus, spearman etc. You talking far NW corner of TX? SE Colorado creek bottom whitetails? With major ag just up the way? Further from the equator, especially N, requires more body mass to thrive. Different sub-species.? Can't back it up with stats. But. From what I've seen, the heaviest whitetails in Texas come from the Red River valley and drainages. To the south and east of the Texas Panhandle. Yelp my ranch borders Texas. I'd say more Kansas genetics. All alafafa, corn, cotton and wheat country. we have had to check station deer for 15 plus years so I know my weights are accurate.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
[Re: ScottA]
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12/25/15 02:30 AM
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The further north you go the bigger, Bergmann's rule. As a rule, yes. However, South Texas deer are considerably larger than their northern cousins in the Hill Country. That's a density issue. Some of the native HF hill country ranches are producing 200 plus pound deer.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 03:23 AM
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The further north you go the bigger, Bergmann's rule. As a rule, yes. However, South Texas deer are considerably larger than their northern cousins in the Hill Country. That's a density issue. Some of the native HF hill country ranches are producing 200 plus pound deer. Wow, that's interesting
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 07:37 AM
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I dunno, but Ive seen 200lb doe taken near Memphis and the heaviest WT I've ever shot was near there as well, 240lb tiny basket 8pt. 200 lb doe? Wow - would love to see a pic of that - cannot imagine We hunt in Wellington (very near Memphis) and have mature doe that push 200lbs and bucks that push 300lbs....especially when peanuts were being farmed heavily. Most seem to be in the 250lb range these days. This is the only pic on my phone of this doe that my daughter shot, but I know it was pushing that 200lb mark. I see mature doe all the time that you would swear was a mature buck if you weren't able to see their head. I shot a buck a few years back in Turkey (also close to Memphis) that was 280lbs. It's the deer in my signature. Deer are just big bodied in that part of the state.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 07:49 AM
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I know The deer north of Childress yall are talking about being big bodied. The GW up there ( great guy) told me, he didnt know why but there is a strain of deer in that area that resemble Kansas deer ( some with double throat patches and different look about them) he said they are just noticeably larger. We have exactly this in Wellington, which is 30 miles north of Childress.....double throat patch deer and two different strains of deer. Some have a very orange tone to them and are the bigger of the two most often. Not sure if that is the resemblance of Kansas deer or not.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 01:44 PM
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I dunno, but Ive seen 200lb doe taken near Memphis and the heaviest WT I've ever shot was near there as well, 240lb tiny basket 8pt. 200 lb doe? Wow - would love to see a pic of that - cannot imagine We hunt in Wellington (very near Memphis) and have mature doe that push 200lbs and bucks that push 300lbs....especially when peanuts were being farmed heavily. Most seem to be in the 250lb range these days. This is the only pic on my phone of this doe that my daughter shot, but I know it was pushing that 200lb mark. I see mature doe all the time that you would swear was a mature buck if you weren't able to see their head. I shot a buck a few years back in Turkey (also close to Memphis) that was 280lbs. It's the deer in my signature. Deer are just big bodied in that part of the state. Dressed or live weights on the ones posted?
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 02:08 PM
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 02:12 PM
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This one dressed a little over 200 and was not near what he had been. He had gotten old and we had changed from peanuts to cotton in his area. Collingsworth county btw
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 02:57 PM
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We've been hunting the far N TX Panhandle for almost 20 years. The avg mature whitetail has field dressed 175lbs, with many going over 200, up to 218lbs field dressed. They are most definitely a KS strain whitetail, and as someone mentioned previously, the bucks with the orang'ish tint to them tend to be the bigger, longer haired strain.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/25/15 10:53 PM
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I would say the panhandle because I think they are a Kansas strain. There are some huge bodied Mule deer up there also, buddy of mine killed a Mulie north of Wayside next to the Palo Duro state park that weighed 265 field dressed at the Happy,Texas locker plant.
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Re: Opinions, what area of Texas has the biggest bodied deer?
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12/30/15 03:11 PM
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I have hunted both deep south Texas and the panhandle. From my experience, the panhandle gets the nod on body weights. There are outliers in every region that make you question things, however on average, the panhandle deer a just larger bodied.
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