tlk,

Thanks for commenting. Regarding your questions, I can qualify on my own. The reason for forming a hunting club is for the pure joy of it; while being able to offer something to others that they may not be able to do on their own. Meaning, when you leverage the membership fees together, you can provide a greater product than if you had purchased something separately on your own. That's where the initial numbers of $18,000 per membership for 180 members was outstanding. We would have had roughly 10 small acreage properties, meaning only 18 hunters per year on a property. Unfortunately, only a few individuals were expressing interest in such a format.

Let's consider the $9 mill ranch for a moment. I understand $180,000 for a membership is high, and many may not think they can afford that. What if that membership was payable in monthly payments over 10 years (no interest)? When you add the membership fee to the annual dues, it totals $234,000 over 10 years. That comes out to $1,950 per month. Additionally, you will be able to itemize the annual dues because you are a fractional owner. Is $1,950 per month (for 10 years) manageable? It is possible to decrease the annual fees to $3600 which would make the payment $1800 per month. Is that a manageable option?

At the same time, if the number of memberships was put back at 180 and the cost was $54,000 (just an example) with annual dues of $1,800..........that's only $600 per month for 10 years; is that manageable? Of course it is!

There are many options that can be expressed........it's just a matter of having everyone see the vision, possibilities, and understand the opportunity.

tlk,

Thanks for commenting. Regarding your questions, I can qualify on my own. The reason for forming a hunting club is for the pure joy of it; while being able to offer something to others that they may not be able to do on their own. Meaning, when you leverage the membership fees together, you can provide a greater product than if you had purchased something separately on your own. That's where the initial numbers of $18,000 per membership for 180 members was outstanding. We would have had roughly 10 small acreage properties, meaning only 18 hunters per year on a property. Unfortunately, only a few individuals were expressing interest in such a format.

Let's consider the $9 mill ranch for a moment. I understand $180,000 for a membership is high, and many may not think they can afford that. What if that membership was payable in monthly payments over 10 years (no interest)? When you add the membership fee to the annual dues, it totals $234,000 over 10 years. That comes out to $1,950 per month. Additionally, you will be able to itemize the annual dues because you are a fractional owner. Is $1,950 per month (for 10 years) manageable? It is possible to decrease the annual fees to $3600 which would make the payment $1800 per month. Is that a manageable option?

At the same time, if the number of memberships was put back at 180 and the cost was $54,000 (just an example) with annual dues of $1,800..........that's only $600 per month for 10 years; is that manageable? Of course it is!

There are many options that can be expressed........it's just a matter of having everyone see the vision, possibilities, and understand the opportunity.

Anyone ever get one of those emails in the 90s from some guy in Africa promising a bunch of money back if you would deposit X amount of dollars into his account so he could free up his real money? Striking to me how the OP writes and phrases his posts just like them; not seen that sort of thing in fifteen years or more. Of course this one could be legit.

It's unfortunate that some have completely misinterpreted everything I've shared. For one thing, all you have to do is look at the Colorado Secretary of State website; look up my business name, and there is everything about me.

Every bit of information I've provided was to assist you with your concerns, questions, & comments so that you would be properly informed and could thoroughly perform your due diligence. If you don't understand business, that's okay; but don't post negative comments about the idea because you "think" it's not legit, or because someone has screwed you over in the past. If anything, all of the Q&A should have provided you with more understanding of this industry; regardless of your decision to participate or not.

I've presented the Wilderness Hunting Club in good faith on this forum; both promoting it and seeking your insight. You have shared your concerns, and I appreciate every comment; good, bad, or otherwise.

As some have shared, we'll see if this develops into something special or if it's just a good idea that goes nowhere.

You aren't the type of guy(s) he's looking for.

A fool and his money....

Mr. Tekoa Shalom
Grand Junction and Granby Colorado

How about this due diligence?

1. Provide your employment history for the past ten years.
2. Have you ever filed for bankruptcy?
3. What is your net worth?
4. What is your annual income?
5. Have you ever been arrested or have a criminal record of any kind?
6. On your previous failed business/hunting club attempt was every member completely and totally refunded their money?

Before I or anyone else would commit to give you $180,000 buy in fee I would want to not only know all of the above information but I would want a full financial statement from your CPA. I would also want copies of all legal documents for this investment for review by my attorney.

tlk,

I hope you express this amount of due diligence with all of your interests.

I work for the State of Colorado. Services were rendered with the other club before I got sick; it was not a fractional ownership venture, it was a traditional club and each member had the opportunity to harvest animals. The other questions do not dignify an answer in a forum setting; for obvious security reasons.


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