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#6081373 - 12/13/15 12:50 PM Outfitter on your own or through consultant?
83mvp Offline
Outdoorsman

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 70
Loc: DFW, TX
I'm looking for opinions, good and bad, on why or why not to go with a consultant to find a good hunt out of state. (Or Texas for that matter). And recommendations of same.

I've about had it with leasing here in Texas. (Family sells the place, landowners keep going up and up every year, hunting with jack wagons you don't know, etc.) For what I spend every year here in Texas, I can buy a guided hunt for nearly anything and have somebody else cook for me. laugh

Don't flame me for wanting to hunt outside my beloved Texas, just trying to get the most bang for my buck. (Pun intended)

Thanks.

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#6081414 - 12/13/15 01:10 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
Creekrunner Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 10/19/12
Posts: 7209
Loc: Bexar/Gillespie, hunt Terrell
I do both. And there's advantages to both. One of which, on the outfitting, side you mentioned - someone else feeding you. I'm a big fan of that, you can ask my wife.

There'll be a few come along here in a minute and have good suggestions on consultants/outfitters. Do you want to stick with deer, or are you open to elk and other big game?
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#6081415 - 12/13/15 01:13 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
Creekrunner Offline
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Registered: 10/19/12
Posts: 7209
Loc: Bexar/Gillespie, hunt Terrell
And I'd make plans to attend the Dallas Safari Club Show in January. >>>DSC show
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#6081444 - 12/13/15 01:25 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: Creekrunner]
83mvp Offline
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Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 70
Loc: DFW, TX
I'm open to most big game in the US. WT, MD, antelope, elk. Maybe black bear and caribou. Anything more than those is pretty much outside my spending limit. So says She Who Must Be Obeyed.

I usually go to the Safari Club show. Thanks for the response.

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#6081459 - 12/13/15 01:31 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
Creekrunner Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 10/19/12
Posts: 7209
Loc: Bexar/Gillespie, hunt Terrell
There's also Sneaky's annual OTC Colorado elk hunt that's a group from this forum. We (I only went last year, not this year) haven't downed one yet, but, by golly, I think they're getting closer! It won't break the bank or upset the war department.
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#6081839 - 12/13/15 05:17 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
Erny Offline
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Registered: 02/26/11
Posts: 1583
Loc: Smith County
I have used a consultant and booked directly with outfitters. It seems like when I have used a consultant things were always close to what was described.. They seem to vet the outfitters pretty well. For International hunts other than Canada I usually met them a DSC. The few hunts I have booked without using a consultant or meeting them at DSC have generally been disappointments. It seems that US and Canada outfitters greatly exagarate the quantity and quality of the hunts as well as accommodations and hunt conditions. I have relied on outfitters reviews on this and other forums with some success and some failures. i kinda rambled but I hope this helps. On another note.....you are right the cost of hunting in Texas is shockingly high compared to hunts in other western states and Canada.

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#6081841 - 12/13/15 05:19 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
Erny Offline
Pro Tracker

Registered: 02/26/11
Posts: 1583
Loc: Smith County
Oh I forgot the consultant that I have been using is Hosted Hunts.

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#6081847 - 12/13/15 05:22 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
rifleman Online   crying
Sparkly Pants

Registered: 11/19/08
Posts: 43788
Loc: Kingwood
Jason Carter is a pretty good consultant on outfitters and hunts you have a snowball's chance of drawing.

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#6081868 - 12/13/15 05:30 PM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
DH3 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 11/18/14
Posts: 309
Loc: Katy
If you are a military veteran, buy your own place using the "Texas Vets" program. I did it 17 years ago and have never regretted it. Depending on how much you have been paying someone else, each year...buy your own place and YOU make the rules.
Out of state, make contacts thru the chamber of commerce where you intend to hunt. There is more public land than private land in some states (Not Texas).

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#6094558 - 12/21/15 09:03 AM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
huntnguide83 Offline
Veteran Tracker

Registered: 12/27/11
Posts: 2160
Loc: Bryan, TX
As an outfitter myself I can tell you that some of the benefits of booking with one is that we commonly have access to better properties than the average hunter is able to find. I operate in 5 different states in both LF and HF operations. Can you find some great hunts on your own? Certainly! But, like most of us we all have to juggle time between work and family life. I gave up on leases years ago for alot of the same reasons you mentioned earlier. I've spent years improving the ranches I've hunted only to see the property sell, or someone else move in on us. I personally try to go on a few hunts annually if my schedule allows vs. leasing. Feel free to PM me at anytime for any help locating a hunt ,or if you have any questions.
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#6094613 - 12/21/15 09:29 AM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
BOBO the Clown Offline
decoy

Registered: 04/19/07
Posts: 41122
Loc: Metroplex
Originally Posted By: 83mvp
I'm looking for opinions, good and bad, on why or why not to go with a consultant to find a good hunt out of state. (Or Texas for that matter). And recommendations of same.

I've about had it with leasing here in Texas. (Family sells the place, landowners keep going up and up every year, hunting with jack wagons you don't know, etc.) For what I spend every year here in Texas, I can buy a guided hunt for nearly anything and have somebody else cook for me. laugh

Don't flame me for wanting to hunt outside my beloved Texas, just trying to get the most bang for my buck. (Pun intended)

Thanks.


On rare tags consultant. On OTC type tags or easy draw tags, I'd find my own outfitter.

You good outfitters on easy tags will be booked well in advance and typically don't need the consultant service to sale spots.

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#6094637 - 12/21/15 09:45 AM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
Nogalus Prairie Offline
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Registered: 11/22/10
Posts: 19293
Loc: Corsicana
Sometimes it's best to go with a consultant and sometimes directly with the outfitter.

There are good and bad of both. The key to having a good guided hunt is research to find the best outfitters for the type of hunt in the locale you are considering. Sometimes consultants are a big help - sometimes not. Some of the best outfitters for particular hunts are not hooked up with any consultant.

There is no set general rule.
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#6094642 - 12/21/15 09:48 AM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Registered: 03/26/12
Posts: 21146
Loc: Nurturing Biosphere Mothership
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: 83mvp
I'm looking for opinions, good and bad, on why or why not to go with a consultant to find a good hunt out of state. (Or Texas for that matter). And recommendations of same.

I've about had it with leasing here in Texas. (Family sells the place, landowners keep going up and up every year, hunting with jack wagons you don't know, etc.) For what I spend every year here in Texas, I can buy a guided hunt for nearly anything and have somebody else cook for me. laugh

Don't flame me for wanting to hunt outside my beloved Texas, just trying to get the most bang for my buck. (Pun intended)

Thanks.


On rare tags consultant. On OTC type tags or easy draw tags, I'd find my own outfitter.

You good outfitters on easy tags will be booked well in advance and typically don't need the consultant service to sale spots.




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#6094645 - 12/21/15 09:49 AM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: 83mvp]
stxranchman Offline
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Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52092
I talk to friends who have hunted in the area I want to hunt if I can. Get their feedback. I have one friend who keeps a a couple of folders full of outfitters contact info, their references and his notes from talking to them and all of their references. He researches on his own very hard before he books a hunt. Some he hunts with and some he keeps on file for future hunts.
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#6094674 - 12/21/15 10:02 AM Re: Outfitter on your own or through consultant? [Re: stxranchman]
Nogalus Prairie Offline
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Registered: 11/22/10
Posts: 19293
Loc: Corsicana
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
I talk to friends who have hunted in the area I want to hunt if I can. Get their feedback. I have one friend who keeps a a couple of folders full of outfitters contact info, their references and his notes from talking to them and all of their references. He researches on his own very hard before he books a hunt. Some he hunts with and some he keeps on file for future hunts.


That's basically my system. By the time I am ready to begin booking I usually have it narrowed down to two or three outfitters. Then I do my final calls, meetings, etc. and decide.

I have never used a consultant but many swear by them for certain hunts - mainly international. I have not done an international hunt. I plan on booking an Africa hunt directly with an outfitter. For international hunts like Marco Polo, Ibex, Tur, etc. in out of the way places like the Middle East or Asia one of the well-respected consulting services is almost a necessity due to lack of direct access to the outfitters and all the other logistics involved.
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That's the way I hunt don't know many that do. If a deer gets buy me I will try to run him down. Ive killed a bunch that way.



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