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#6080721 - 12/12/15 09:46 PM is this bad brass?
Cankor Offline
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Can somebody help me out here, these were light loads with titegroup and 185gr. bullets I loaded for plinking, blew my 1911 magazine apart? I want to chalk it up as faulty brass but...

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#6080730 - 12/12/15 09:55 PM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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looks like a over pressure to me. look at how the primer flowed.
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#6080748 - 12/12/15 10:07 PM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
Cankor Offline
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I loaded them at 5.2 grains (I think, can't find my book) but damn! I'm new to the handgun side of loading, never had a problem like this with my rifle loads...

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#6080985 - 12/13/15 07:46 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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I agree, high pressure. Rifle powders tend to be much bulkier than most pistol powders making it far easier to over load a pistol cartridge. You could easily double charge larger pistol cartridges without filling the case to the top. If it were me, I would pull the bullets on the remaining rounds, dump the powder and start over. Glad you weren't hurt.


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#6081060 - 12/13/15 09:02 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
Cankor Offline
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Yep, I think thats what I'm going to have to do. Thanks guys!

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#6081164 - 12/13/15 10:16 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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I'm with the double charge group. You got lucky.
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#6082353 - 12/13/15 09:32 PM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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Definitely over pressure.
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#6082371 - 12/13/15 09:42 PM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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WOW....yeah, that has nothing to do with brass and everything with you being lucky.
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#6082391 - 12/13/15 09:53 PM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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#6082757 - 12/14/15 08:03 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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Yes, over pressure for sure. If the brass was bad, it would have separated slightly, but it blew out a whole area.

#1- What is your method for charging cases?

#2- since it blew out a large area, it almost looks like the round was fired out of battery. Normally you don't get that much material missing unless it has somewhere to go.

Titegroup is a very fast burning powder. I'm showing 5.2 grains with a 185 is right in the middle of min/max. So, if the case was charged properly, the load SHOULD be good. But not sure 100% on what caused it.
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#6082784 - 12/14/15 08:13 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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If your using a powder thrower or some other mechanical device other than weighing each charge individually I would suggest more attention to that. I tried using a thrower before and always found them to be pretty inconsistent. With a powder charge that small slight variations could mean a great deal.
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#6082875 - 12/14/15 08:49 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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If using a auto powder throw I would suggest using a powder cop die after it. When loading bulk I use my auto powder measure, but when loading for accuracy I load using my auto powder scale.
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#6083056 - 12/14/15 10:07 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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I have had excellent luck with precision on my UniqueTek Micrometer powder bar.

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#6083111 - 12/14/15 10:41 AM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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Overload or bullet pushed back in the case while feeding from mag. Proper neck tension and crimp?
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#6083579 - 12/14/15 02:24 PM Re: is this bad brass? [Re: Cankor]
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Yes, that.
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