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Recoil of a 243 #6078884 12/11/15 10:00 PM
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Hi was was wondering what somenes thoughts were on the recoil of a 243. I have a very messed up back to here I cold not even sighting my 30-06 I had a buddy do it for me. I am unable to handle the recoil more then 2-3 times even my 30-30 gives me trouble after shooting i can hardly walk. So i am really really thinking of getting a 243 been looking at the savage axes. I have never fired one so i dont know what to compare it to I am taking it that it is lighter then the 30-30. most days on FT Hood I take my muzzleloader it is much lighter then the 25-06 270 30-06 and 30-30 hunting on base is fine with the muzzleloader because they dont take very long shots maybe 150 at most. and I am confident with the Inline at 200yrs. but i want a rifle for when not on post something that can take deer and pigs. I have a 222 220swift and a 22-250 but the only whay to really take a hog or a dear with one of those is a head hot. can anyone give me a little feed back on the 243 and if the recoile would be manageable for someone who has there back fused in 2 places and pinched nerves alway way down my back making it hard to walk sit or bend over so you can imagine the jolt of a 30-06 and how it can feel.

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if you get a heavy barrel .243 you won't feel any recoil

on light synthetic stock you'll feel a little if shooting 100gr +

not really any pain just that the rifle will jump/kick

I am not recoil sensitive so a .243 is perfect for sensitive folks

btw, if you want to minimize recoil lean into the rifle more and have it snug

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Re: Recoil of a 243 [Re: chemdawg] #6078899 12/11/15 10:07 PM
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If you have a .220 Swift and a .22-250 and don't have any problem with those, I don't think a .243 is going to give you much problem. If by chance it does, there are 'Lite' .243 loads available that would have even less recoil. Main thing is to be sure that the rifle fits you well and has a good (Limbsaver or Pachmayr Decelerator) recoil pad on it. Also, a heavier rifle will have less recoil if you don't mind carrying it. Lastly, a PAST recoil shoulder pad could be used in conjunction with the other to help you.


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Use the Swift or .22-250. Take neck shots. You do not need another rifle. rifle


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Re: Recoil of a 243 [Re: chemdawg] #6078976 12/11/15 11:16 PM
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If you were closer I'd let you shoot mine. You can use ammo that is reduced recoil. It's really pretty comfortable to shoot. Maybe someone down your way will chime in and let you fire a few rounds so you can feel it for yourself.

Re: Recoil of a 243 [Re: chemdawg] #6079027 12/11/15 11:39 PM
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I forgot to add that you can get the barrel threaded
and put a muzzle brake on, your felt recoil will be cut in half

Re: Recoil of a 243 [Re: chemdawg] #6079045 12/11/15 11:56 PM
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Cartridge (Wb@MV,,,,,,,,Rifle Weight_____Recoil energy___Recoil velocity

22-250 Rem. (55 at 3600).....8.5............4.7..............6.0
243 Win. (100 at 2960).......7.5............8.8..............8.7
.30-30 Win. (150 at 2400).....7.5...........10.6.............9.5
.30-06 Spfd. (165 at 2900......8.0..........20.1.............12.7


The above shows a comparison of recoil between 4 different cartridges. Recoil energy is how hard the recoil strikes your shoulder. Recoil Velocity is how fast that 'strike' hits your shoulder.
Since you have a back that tells you the recoil of your 30-06 and/or 30-30 is too much for you to take (I can feel for you with my bum shoulder), you can see that a 243 weighing the same as the 30-30 has a bit lighter recoil AND a bit less velocity, the 243 in a 7.5 pound rifle might just work. To help that along, if you're thinking of buying a new rifle (and do we REALLY need reason other than 'want'?) you might look at getting a 243 that's 1/2 - 1 lb heavier than the 7.5 lb 243 shows.
In short, if you're buying look for something a bit heavier. It doesn't have to have a varmint barrel to attenuate the recoil. Some suggested brands/models would be:
Weatherby Vanguard S2
Howa 1500 (essentially the same gun just different stock and barrel length)

If you reload, you could put some Nosler partitions in the 22-250 or the swift or the 222 and with proper bullet placement, still take hogs and deer.

The table information came from Chuck Hawks website btw.


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A 243s recoil is close to a 410 shotgun not bad at all might even be alittle less

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First of all, I think it would be highly worth the price difference to get a Model 12 versus an Axis.

Secondly, we have both a 243 and a 30-30 and I would say they are fairly comparable. the 243 is the cheap model 11 thxp and the 30-30 is a marlin 336. the 243 is more comfortable because it has a recoil pad where the 30-30 has nothing.


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A lot of people hate muzzle breaks because of the perceived increase in sound, but a good muzzle break will virtually eliminate recoil. I have a good one on my 308 and when I shoot a deer the scope does not even come off the deer. I can actually see the animal get hit and its reaction to the round. When shooting long range I can actually watch the bullet trail through the scope. Something I had never seen before while shooting except when watching others shoot. I do have some before and after videos of my son shooting my 308 before and after I installed the break.

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Increase the rifle weight.
Add a brake
Consider the 6.5 Creedmoor, hits a bit harder on the other end and doesn't recoil much more.

This week I've shot my ten pound 7 Rem Mag wearing a brake off my backpack and have been no worse for the ware.


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I put a bunch of rounds down range today from a .243 with no break or suppressor and my 6.5 Creedmor with a suppressor. The Creedmoor with 123gr and 140gr kicked the same or less than the .243 with 85gr, 87gr reduced recol loads or the 100gr I shot.

If your willing to wait out the 3-4 months for a suppressor, do it!!!

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Re: Recoil of a 243 [Re: chemdawg] #6079520 12/12/15 05:27 AM
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I have the Ruger American in .243 and the recoil with 100 grain ammo is minimal.

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I dislike brakes greatly, but they really, really work and I'd use one without hesitation before I gave up hunting. Do yourself a favor and shoot a braked rifle of reasonable weight. I have a light custom rifle in a .300 Weatherby equivalent and the recoil is unbelievable moderate. I also put a suppressor / brake combo on a .338 Lapua and now it feels like a .308. The brake / suppressor combo is **greatness**.


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I'd use the 22-250 in a heart beat. I have a 222 that has never let me down. I've taken 7 or 8 deer with it. I lost one but that was my fault. Just understand the limitations re distance.


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A buddy of mine has a 300 win mag, Rem 700 Sendaro with a muzzlebrake. The gun is loud but kicks so light even a 12 year old girl can fire it and it doesnt bother her.

Brakes are not my cup of tea but if it keeps you in the game, get one installed on your gun.

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If you get a muzzle brake, I can highly recommend the electronic ear plugs that allow you to hear the game and have conversations, but will protect you from the sound of the gun going off.

I'd also like to repeat what others have said about shying away from lightweight rifles. A heavier rifle shooting .243 with a muzzle brake should be close to ideal, plenty of power but very little recoil.

Personally I'd start off with a Weatherby Vanguard, as they are a tad heavier than many others, and its a very nice action.

Another point: Don't be shy about a big scope. - The extra weight will soak up recoil, and you'll see better too - so why not?


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I shoot a .243, and my rifle weighs about 6 pounds sans scope. Maybe 7 with it. I can hold the rifle dead soft and it is still not bad. But if i didn't have much eye relief, I believe it would be enough to pop me in the eye with a dead soft hold. Shooting at game, in the heat of the moment, I hardly notice it. My wife says the .243 does not recoil near as much as the 20 guage. She is sensitive enough to tell the difference.

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243 has very little kick . Like stated get heavier barrel , stock , and it will help. 25-06 is also a good option

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I just got me a new 243 a couple weeks ago. Even in a lightweight rifle it is very pleasant to shoot. I am shooting mine suppressed, which helps it even more. Personally I can't tell that much difference from a 22-250 or a Swift. I am wondering though, with back problems, which hurts worse? A little more kick from a light rifle, or carrying a heavier one?

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thats for the info i am going to pick one up tomorrow I dont mess with the 22-250 at all those were varmint gun and sited in sith light load they the 22-250 i a winchester bull barrel i have a whole lot of round my father loaded for it as it was his gun. shooting wood chuck at 500-600 yards with it. we won a lot of woodchuck torments with those do it is more sentimental then practical as why i dont use them and adjust the sight I know they will both take a deer. in NY we got newcencs tags some of our land we let the amish next door neighbor us it of planting corn since we has so much land we would get 12 tags just for newness plus regular hunting season and there a person can sign there tags over to an other person so we would also get my dads wifes deer and my step sisters and my aunts just because he had 8 kids and no job so most of our deer when to her. that 22-250 was my fathers baby i think he loved it more then me most day and it is like caring around 3 guns ant one time it is super heavey the 220 is in the same boat i have a lot of really like load loaded for it. they are both very fast flat shooting guns but i want a 243 so good enough reson to buy one like mentioned i use my 50cal muzzle loader and i can shot it 2 -3 times and since i hunt ft hood a lot it works out because you can use a shot gun or muzzle loader (limited range weapons in un guided area) and o cam get a target at 150 yrs comfortable with it even though it zeroed at 100yrs I have 2 50,cals nothing special there just Knight inlines on is a lot lighter then the other so i dont shot the other i make my sone use it. having nerve damage in the back it it might not seem a like to most people but for me even the slightest difference is a big difference I talked to gun shop in temple they will assemble a 243 the will fit me for 350-400 I know on my dads 7mm mag he had a small add weights in the but stock to reduce the recoil and hand the early fluted. noes is not that big of a deal for me i cant hear well anyhow. and the 22-250 222 bark like no tomorrow i have never herd a gun that loud go off and i did 2 combat toureds in Iraq I thank ever one for there thought for a few minet i was thinking of a 257 and even made a post but after reading Bbears post i will just stick to the 243 this weekend i got slacked to go on a hut at a ranch it was for purple hear recipients i was we we're told it wold be a trophy hunt then when we get there it was a management hunt so we cold only shoot the ones he did not want on his ranch to me it was no big deal meat is meat I have engought tropyes of there year unless its a no typical i dont care about each size any more but i had to fired that 30-06 at about 100 yd just the anticipation of the recoil cause me to jerk the trigger after words my legs went numbe for 2 days the second shot was even works it drop with one shot but i pulled thinking about the pain i was about to feel i have 2 deer to fill still this year and i want to meet someone who is a serious hog hunter and leand about hog hunting I dont know about them and trying to fined land around here is impossible even though the hogs are doing a lot of damage so like cemented before just wanting it is a good enough reson to get one. it just one more thing to pass down to my kids I am looking for some kind of reading class they offer around here the guy who was going to show me how to just got order for Korea so he will be gone for 2 yrs but i want to get in to reloading i dont have much to do when the channels cats are really biting in the spring and summer I have my guides license and i do guied trips cheap and all the money I make from that and selling my bait i use to take other disabled vets and theres families out cat fishing. I think every quied from to to dallas to austin hates me because of my rates. I do it for about half of what they do and i go from sun up till 3-4 pm for 4-5 people i know what is like to want to do something like that and it to be out of my price range as long as i can cover my cost and make enough to take guys out i am happy. i am not in it to make money and support my family like a lot of guids or just try to squeeze as much money out of people as i can I make it fordable of they can go and offer discounted for military police firemen medics but when i am not fishing i want to hunt hogs and deer I had made a deal with 2 farmers they were to let me use there land and i was to take them fishing in the spring and summer i took the 27times and when it came time to hunt they wanted me to pay more then i could afford each so i got screwed on that deal what is crazy the one guy said he lost over 30,000$ for just goes

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sorry for the drown out replays as i have said i dont write very well how much does a muzzle break cost is there a place in the ft hood area that can do them i only on of one real gun smithing shop and that is webber in temple tx i would use the 222 but it really doesn't have the range i am comfortable with or i would use it no problem. I would feel tearable if i lost a deer i shot. I have been lucky and have alway taken my deer with on shot i can count the times i had to use 2 on one hand and the physiological part of sooting a gun you know is going to hurt you really through your shooting off the 2 deer i shot this weekend were all hight and right do dropped after about 50p60 yrs sprint but it was poor placement i tensed up and pulled all my shots part of there reason i am going with the 243 and thinking of getting a Cabela's Multi-Turret Riflescopes after watching the you tube videos and reading the reviews.. i only have 2 high end scopes there rest are all bushnell and i am more then happy with every one of them i did not pay 200 for it but i think the one from cabalas if it is what they say it is i like the idea of the drop compositor matched for the cabler of gun and even some builets

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Originally Posted By: chemdawg
sorry for the drown out replays as i have said i dont write very well how much does a muzzle break cost is there a place in the ft hood area that can do them i only on of one real gun smithing shop and that is webber in temple tx i would use the 222 but it really doesn't have the range i am comfortable with or i would use it no problem. I would feel tearable if i lost a deer i shot. I have been lucky and have alway taken my deer with on shot i can count the times i had to use 2 on one hand and the physiological part of sooting a gun you know is going to hurt you really through your shooting off the 2 deer i shot this weekend were all hight and right do dropped after about 50p60 yrs sprint but it was poor placement i tensed up and pulled all my shots part of there reason i am going with the 243 and thinking of getting a Cabela's Multi-Turret Riflescopes after watching the you tube videos and reading the reviews.. i only have 2 high end scopes there rest are all bushnell and i am more then happy with every one of them i did not pay 200 for it but i think the one from cabalas if it is what they say it is i like the idea of the drop compositor matched for the cabler of gun and even some builets



I replied to your other thread suggesting a break but you should be able to get a barrel threaded and a break put on for around $150.

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Check out Kahntrol, they have a brake that bolts on without having to get your barrel threaded, I will report on it's effectiveness in a few days.


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