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#6076052 - 12/09/15 10:00 PM For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage....
Enter Standman Offline
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....of does are unbred at this point of the season? I want off the top of your head guesses, we can look it up later.

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#6076063 - 12/09/15 10:07 PM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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Some does possibly didn't get bred, (very small amount) but fawns coming into heat for the first time, I'm going to guess 10%. Just a guess, I may be way off. Good question.

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#6076070 - 12/09/15 10:11 PM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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Excluding fawns, I'll go with 96% being bred leaving 4% likely unable to.

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#6076078 - 12/09/15 10:17 PM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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where specifically do you hunt? most parts of texas the main breeding period is probably over but in south texas it hasn't even really started. also your buck to doe ratio could play a factor if its way out of balance.

I really don't have any idea but I'd say it would be about 15% or less.
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#6076122 - 12/09/15 11:14 PM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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40%
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#6076360 - 12/10/15 07:54 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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I still see bucks chasing in Eastland, but I am seeing several bucks after a single doe, so my guess is 15% have not been bred yet in my part of the state. Of course that percentage could change depending heavly on your buck to doe ratio. Some area's have 5-7 does for every buck and some have close to a one to one. That would make a great diference on the number of does still needing breeding after the first round.


Edited by Mr. T. (12/10/15 07:59 AM)
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#6076370 - 12/10/15 07:59 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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0% where I hunt in Webb County.

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#6076374 - 12/10/15 08:01 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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50% out west.
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#6076385 - 12/10/15 08:07 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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Very location specific. Id say less than 10% if any in our area are bred.
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#6076643 - 12/10/15 09:55 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: fouzman]
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
0% where I hunt in Webb County.


How could every single doe be bred?
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#6076724 - 12/10/15 10:41 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Sneaky]
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Originally Posted By: Sneaky
Originally Posted By: fouzman
0% where I hunt in Webb County.


How could every single doe be bred?


Maybe it's Webb County, Mexico, they tend to breed early and often down there. bolt

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#6076734 - 12/10/15 10:50 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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Oops. I meant 0% have been bred. Sorry about that.

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#6076802 - 12/10/15 11:15 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: rattler03]
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Originally Posted By: rattler03
where specifically do you hunt? most parts of texas the main breeding period is probably over but in south texas it hasn't even really started. also your buck to doe ratio could play a factor if its way out of balance.

I really don't have any idea but I'd say it would be about 15% or less.
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#6076852 - 12/10/15 11:40 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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I bet 85% of the does (including sexually mature yearlings) in our area have been humped on bred.


How many of those result in conception is the next question - 85%? Then, how many conceived deer go full term - 85%? Followed closely by how many fawns survive to maturity - 75%?


Assume a property has a 2:1 doe to buck population - 100 does and 50 bucks. At optimal habitat, 10 acres will sustain 1 deer. Therefore this hypothetical property is 1,500 acres in size.


So...out of 100 does, 85% are 'bred' = 85 pregnant does. Out of those 85 deer only 72 have a viable fetus (85% of 85). Of those 72 pregnant does, only 61 go full term to drop fawns (85% of 72).

Assume the 61 full-term does throw 1.5 fawns each. You now have 92 spotted milk drinkers which are a mix of D's and B's. Add this to the existing 100 does and 50 bucks and the hypothetical property has exceeded its carrying capacity in optimal conditions by 92 mouths.

nidea I think I just convinced myself that responsible doe harvest is paramount to good wildlife management. clap Better start dropping some slickheads!


Somebody tell me if this scenario is off base.




Edited by HuntnFly67 (12/10/15 11:42 AM)
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#6076882 - 12/10/15 11:56 AM Re: For You Amateur Biologists, What Percentage.... [Re: Enter Standman]
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Only thing I know to say is I have read that in natural populations almost always 100% or very near percentage of viable does get bred.
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