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#6070179 - 12/06/15 09:19 PM A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes
Texas Dan Offline
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A little lengthy but worth the time.

Spoiler Alert - No one knows for sure.

http://www.outdoorweekend.net/Articles-i...ntler_size.html
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#6070188 - 12/06/15 09:27 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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We will not shoot spikes unless they are 3yr old seen to many turn into good bucks.

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#6070306 - 12/06/15 11:17 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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Great Article I had a bunch of spikes this year that were two. No one on our ranch shoots them not even the kids. With that being said I can only remember one time that I saw a/ spike that may have been three. After that do they have a cull rack or turn into typical. No way of knowing for sure
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#6071484 - 12/07/15 03:39 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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Generally it is not good to shoot pikes unless it is their 3rd set of antlers.. At that point they will most likely not become anything worth wile antler wise.
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#6071496 - 12/07/15 03:52 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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http://www.outdoorweekend.net/Articles-i...ntler_size.html

"Likewise, in the flatwood country of northwestern Florida, Steve Shea and his coworkers found that 78 percent of the yearling bucks grew spike antlers less than 5 inches long. Despite a 75 percent decline in deer numbers, body and antler size among yearlings did not improve because of the low-quality forage growing on the infertile soil."

Lol, Keep shooting boys!!!!!

Now let's look at our tag numbers and look at out deer numbers and ratios. Now what's the biggest impact We can have on our deer, via the trigger....

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#6071503 - 12/07/15 03:58 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Now what's the biggest impact We can have on our deer, via the trigger....


Alteration of herd size is the biggest impact.
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#6071507 - 12/07/15 03:59 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown

http://www.outdoorweekend.net/Articles-i...ntler_size.html

"Likewise, in the flatwood country of northwestern Florida, Steve Shea and his coworkers found that 78 percent of the yearling bucks grew spike antlers less than 5 inches long. Despite a 75 percent decline in deer numbers, body and antler size among yearlings did not improve because of the low-quality forage growing on the infertile soil."

Lol, Keep shooting boys!!!!!

Now let's look at our tag numbers and look at out deer numbers and ratios. Now what's the biggest impact We can have on our deer, via the trigger....


Not pulling it for $200, Alex.

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#6071518 - 12/07/15 04:06 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Now what's the biggest impact We can have on our deer, via the trigger....


Alteration of herd size is the biggest impact.



cheers Bing Bing...

The whole spike debate really is irrelevant for 98% of us. The resources just aren't there to have an impact. Best to use those doe tags in the majority of TX(excluding very low density areas)

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#6071520 - 12/07/15 04:06 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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I wont try to shoot every spike I see, but I will shot every spike I can that is on its second set of antlers and is still a spike!
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#6071527 - 12/07/15 04:09 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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I have one this year that qualifies spike as an 8yo...he is going to get ground checked so there's a chance I have 20yrs of deer on the ground with 2 tags.

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#6071534 - 12/07/15 04:11 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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If you have the #'s, I wouldn't wait for the 3rd set of antlers to shoot a spike or any deer less than 8 points unless you enjoy shooting mature bucks with 8 points or less. If you have low densities, I can see experimenting with this practice. We kill everything less than an 8 point at 3.5 and some deer such as spikes at 2.5, never shooting anything bigger than an 8 point until they're at least 5.5 and depending on size and score will leave the 5.5's to 6.5, 7.5, etc... It's not foolproof, but you do notice a difference if you can stick with that program for the same period of said age. Again, range, deer densities, ratios, etc... would have a say in this practice.
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#6071983 - 12/07/15 08:00 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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This may seem like an idiotic example but I've always considered culling spikes like drafting and NBA team when the players are in kindergarten.

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#6072060 - 12/07/15 08:35 PM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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When its time ta gather some freezer meat, and a tag is left... Doe/spike??? either one will wake the team.
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#6072926 - 12/08/15 10:31 AM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
Texas Dan Offline
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I found this article while searching for information that might support my approach in taking spikes that don't match up with their second year peers. It would appear to be common sense that all deer in the area where you hunt have access to the same amount and types of browse. If so, it would seem that genetics would be the major difference in antler development, making differences in antler appearance a good way to identify inferior spikes from other bucks of the same age.
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#6072936 - 12/08/15 10:33 AM Re: A good read on what the evidence suggests on shooting spikes [Re: Texas Dan]
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Genetics and diet play a very important role. As does birth date of said spike.

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