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25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 10:11 PM
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What is everyone shooting out of their 25-06. I've been using 100 grain Remington Corelokts for awhile because the rifle shoots them so well and never tried anything else. Well today I had my first problem I lost a nice 8 point this morning. Shot him at around 150yds, did the high kick I could tell he was hit from the he was running, he took off into the middle of a thick marsh. I didn't think much about I was confident in my shot pretty much text book. I've shot alot of animals with this rifle and never had any issues. I figured he was going to be laying 10yds into the brush walk over and he is not there. I searched 3hrs and no sign of him. The problem I have noticed with this round is no exit and no blood trail..So I'm looking for bullet options and opinions. I'm shooting a Remington 700 ADL.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 10:26 PM
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I shoot 120 grain Remmington Corelocks. I've never had any problems with losing a deer I've shot. Any chance you just grazed him maybe? Maybe shot under him?
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 10:32 PM
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Shot placement! Sounds like you didn't hit him with a killing shot, and caliber makes little difference with a poorly placed shot.
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 10:53 PM
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Deer will do the high leg kick even on leg hits.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 10:56 PM
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In most cases I prefer heavy-for-caliber bullets. In .243 I shoot 100grs instead of 80. In 6.8 I shoot 115 instead of 90. In 25-06 I'd probably shoot 115-120gr, but I agree this was likely a shot placement issue or the one in a while that takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Sorry you didn't recover him.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 11:04 PM
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Im well aware of shot placement. Only thing I could think of is I may have pulled the shot and hit him a little far back. I would really like to think I missed him altogether but I feel that's not the case. Makes me sick first deer I have ever lost. My question as far as my caliber was mainly about exit holes and different bullet options that y'all use. Shot a doe a couple weeks ago about the same distance perfect heart shot same deal, jumped and ran about 30yards once again no exit, no blood? Opened her up and heart was mush..
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 11:08 PM
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Are you a handloader?
Have you got the money to hire a dog handler to come out?
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 11:09 PM
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 11:13 PM
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I shoot Hornady Superformancw 117 grain. Never had a problem, even with some good size pigs. Albeit I do shoot the pigs in the head
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/06/15 11:37 PM
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I shoot 100 grain bullets in both my .243 and 25-06.
As for my strength with shot placement, I measure it only by what I achieve with many three shot groups at the range.
Just yesterday I shot a small spike in the high shoulder with my .270 using a 130 grain bullet at less than 100 yards and there was no exit wound visible. Upon cleaning, it appeared the bullet bounced off the shoulder and into the spine area without ever exiting the animal.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 12:58 AM
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Is hot the 117 gr. bullet.. And it does a good job!
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:05 AM
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shooting the 100 gr nosler ballistic tips. sounds a lot like shot placement perhaps a little far back.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:12 AM
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Here's an interesting bit of information on the Remington Core Lokt:
I have shot both Remington Core Lokt and Hornady Interlock SP bullet. I have always had a pass through with the Hornady, but not so much with the Core Lokt. IMO, the Core Lokt "blows up" and does a lot of internal damage,hence the mess when cleaning, but because it does not or may not pass through we the hunter do not get the blood trail we get when we have a bullet that passes through.
Try a Hornady SP 117 grain
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:13 AM
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Try Federal Fusion 120gr....you'll get exit wounds.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:25 AM
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Im well aware of shot placement. Only thing I could think of is I may have pulled the shot and hit him a little far back. I would really like to think I missed him altogether but I feel that's not the case. Makes me sick first deer I have ever lost. My question as far as my caliber was mainly about exit holes and different bullet options that y'all use. Shot a doe a couple weeks ago about the same distance perfect heart shot same deal, jumped and ran about 30yards once again no exit, no blood? Opened her up and heart was mush.. If you plan to continue using a 100 grain bullet, the Barnes TSX might provide a better chance at creating an exit wound. Personally, I'd pick something along the lines of a 117-120 grain bullet for deer sized animals. Sorry to hear of the lost Buck, I know it is disappointing. If hit a bit far back (read Liver) it can travel quite a ways before bedding up and expiring. IF shot even farther back (read paunch/stomach) many will not be recovered, they simply leave little to no blood trail and can travel great distances. If you choose to change up your ammo, do NOT fail to re-sight your rifle before returning to the field. Chances are excellent it will shoot to a different point of aim. Best of luck! Flint.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:29 AM
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Try Federal Fusion 120gr....you'll get exit wounds. This.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:41 AM
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I shoot 100 grain core lokts out of a 25-06 and have never had one not pass thru.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:51 AM
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117 grain Hornady . Like others have said up your bullet size.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:51 AM
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I shoot the hornaday 117 gr SST rounds and we have not had a deer lost, yet. My son has done most of The shooting and he has nailed several deer in the heart and they run a little but have always found them, but lung shot deer dropped just as good.
We have had some coyotes that get hit and they run off. I know they were hit due to blood and fur at the site, but they still ran off. Tough suckers or maybe poor shot placement. We throw lead at coyotes when we see them though so it isn't comparing apples to apples.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:54 AM
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Shot placement is a huge part of it. That being said, I watched a buck take 4 rounds from a 150gr 30-06 Corelocts like it was nothing. First shot was 188 yds left front shoulder almost broadside. 2 & 3 were in the neck from 203 yds on the right side. 4 shot was just behind shoulder right side almost broadside at 215 yds. All rounds hit point of aim, and all rounds exited, the dude just didn't want to die. He made it 30~ yds after the 4th shot.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:55 AM
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We killed a pile of deer with plain old 80g Sierra softpoints.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 01:55 AM
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First thing I'd do is check the rifle at the range.....
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 02:38 AM
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I just went and picked up a box Hornady 117 grain, so going to the range next. Hopefully I will have good results.
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 02:54 AM
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The round you are shooting is fine. So many variables it's insane for people here to guess. I like the federal 120's in that load, but the core lokts killed a shiton of deer
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Re: 25-06 and a Lost deer
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12/07/15 05:04 AM
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I just went and picked up a box Hornady 117 grain, so going to the range next. Hopefully I will have good results. Good choice!
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