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#6069242 - 12/06/15 09:44 AM .458 socom?
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Anyone have one? Im thinking about building one just to have something different. I had a 300blk for awhile but just got bored with it once they became mainstream. I figure 458 would be fun and probably not a bad HD gun if we're talking SBR

I reload so not worried about price and availability of ammo. Id probably buy 100rds then just reload the brass.

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#6069267 - 12/06/15 09:56 AM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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The 9 round capacity is what turns me away most. If that isnt a problem, go for it. It has some impressive energy on target for sure.

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#6069314 - 12/06/15 10:41 AM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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I had one for 3 or 4 years. It's a fun cartridge to shoot, but it is expensive to shoot. I hand load for everything I shoot,and never fired a single round of factory ammo out of mine.
I shot 300,325,350,and 405 grain bullets out of mine. It shot great, but those heavy bullets drop like crazy after 100 yards. The 458 SOCOM is a hog stopper, it's like hitting them with a 20lb sledgehammer.
I gave up on it because of the limited shooting range of the cartridge, my 260 Remington DPMS will do anything the 458 will do, and do it a whole lot farther.

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#6069477 - 12/06/15 01:29 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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I would like one, but for the cost of an upper you can nearly buy a full .308 rifle.
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#6069493 - 12/06/15 01:43 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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I can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but I have been reading recently about a new 358 AR round that sounds interesting.

As to magazine capacity for the 458 socom, I would not really be concerned about that. It has enough power so that the "spray and pray" system is really a moot point. At reasonable ranges, its hard to imagine a single round not doing the job. It would have to be a pretty tough, determined critter to require two.

With the price and recoil impulse of the ammunition, it's hard to imagine very many 458 socom owners emptying the magazine as fast as they can, just for giggles. What I have heard most about is guys using it as a hunting round.
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#6069776 - 12/06/15 05:38 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: charlesb]
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I would bet at distances of less than 25 yards they would be great
Originally Posted By: charlesb

At reasonable ranges, its hard to imagine a single round not doing the job. It would have to be a pretty tough, determined critter to require two.
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#6069798 - 12/06/15 05:53 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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It's not really a practical round. And I love it!

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#6069818 - 12/06/15 06:06 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb

I can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but I have been reading recently about a new 358 AR round that sounds interesting.

As to magazine capacity for the 458 socom, I would not really be concerned about that. It has enough power so that the "spray and pray" system is really a moot point. At reasonable ranges, its hard to imagine a single round not doing the job. It would have to be a pretty tough, determined critter to require two.

With the price and recoil impulse of the ammunition, it's hard to imagine very many 458 socom owners emptying the magazine as fast as they can, just for giggles. What I have heard most about is guys using it as a hunting round.



Spray and pray doesn't sound very sportsmanly

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#6069875 - 12/06/15 06:40 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: Cleric]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb

I can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but I have been reading recently about a new 358 AR round that sounds interesting.

As to magazine capacity for the 458 socom, I would not really be concerned about that. It has enough power so that the "spray and pray" system is really a moot point. At reasonable ranges, its hard to imagine a single round not doing the job. It would have to be a pretty tough, determined critter to require two.

With the price and recoil impulse of the ammunition, it's hard to imagine very many 458 socom owners emptying the magazine as fast as they can, just for giggles. What I have heard most about is guys using it as a hunting round.



Spray and pray doesn't sound very sportsmanly


It generally occurs at the shooting range. I see a lot of it with the AR and AK owners, especially when they shoot at the steel targets. With some of those AK's in particular, that was their best bet for getting the steel to ring.

There are some AR owners whose theory is that several hits from a .223 on a pig adds up to being as good as one hit from a .308.

If the bullets are going where they are supposed to, it may be that they are right. - Not my style though, I'm a semi-reformed big-bore fan.

With me, the AR's are a lot like the M1A... I played around with them for a few months but after that, I was ready to move on to something else.

An AR in 458 socom sounds a lot more interesting to me than an AR in .223.


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#6069925 - 12/06/15 07:03 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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Yes, I have one. Have it owned it for quite a while now and use it extensively for Hogs and sometimes for deer.

If you handload (and I suggest you do) then you have available to you...anything from a 100 gr. bullet (yes 100) up to 600 grain bullets that you can shoot from it.

Join us here...for all the information you could want:

http://458socomforums.com/

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#6069938 - 12/06/15 07:08 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb


With the price and recoil impulse of the ammunition, it's hard to imagine very many 458 socom owners emptying the magazine as fast as they can, just for giggles. What I have heard most about is guys using it as a hunting round.


The recoil of the 458 SOCOM is really nothing until you get to the 400+ grain bullets,and then it's like shooting a shotgun with slugs.
It's a great short range gun,and a perfect match for hunting hogs,deer,bison,elk,moose,etc at ranges under 150 yards. Accuracy is fantastic with most bullets,and loading/shooting ammo that shoots under moa is very easy to accomplish.
The only negative to loading/shooting the 458 SOCOM is the lack of published load data from the bullet and powder manufacture's. You can find load data for it on several 458 forum sites,but you still need to be cautious when loading for it. It is a low pressure round,and you will show pressure signs on the brass pretty quickly when you start loading hot rounds.

Charles,It's really not hard to imagine 458 owners doing magazine dumps. It's actually fun as hell to do it!

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#6070187 - 12/06/15 09:27 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: Tactical Cowboy]
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Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
I would like one, but for the cost of an upper you can nearly buy a full .308 rifle.


Radical Firearms has complete uppers for $419 which isn't too bad.

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#6070191 - 12/06/15 09:29 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: flintknapper]
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Originally Posted By: flintknapper
Yes, I have one. Have it owned it for quite a while now and use it extensively for Hogs and sometimes for deer.

If you handload (and I suggest you do) then you have available to you...anything from a 100 gr. bullet (yes 100) up to 600 grain bullets that you can shoot from it.

Join us here...for all the information you could want:

http://458socomforums.com/

Flint.


Thanks for the info. I'll check out that site. Had no idea you could shoot such a wide range of bullets from it.

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#6070217 - 12/06/15 09:57 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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Originally Posted By: jeepercreeper
Originally Posted By: Tactical Cowboy
I would like one, but for the cost of an upper you can nearly buy a full .308 rifle.


Radical Firearms has complete uppers for $419 which isn't too bad.



If I had known about this one I might have sprung for it before purchasing another RRA .223/5.56 upper. I've thought I might like a .458 for shooting hogs from the blind, but after the ho-hum reviews here in this thread maybe I won't think much about it any more.
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#6070275 - 12/06/15 10:43 PM Re: .458 socom? [Re: jeepercreeper]
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If supressors in 458 weren't so damned expensive I would get a 458 sbr upper. My buddy has one and it is a hog hammer.
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