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#6068569 - 12/05/15 06:50 PM Short, Heavy 308
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Lately I've been fascinated with an idea, a rifle with a short (18") bull barrel.

Nothing 'tactical", I'm thinking of a sporting rifle, hopefully even good-looking.

In my imagination, it would handle well, be good in the brush, but also be accurate enough for longer shots, out to 300 yards at the most with a .308 and 165 grain spitzers.

A compact 2-7 scope slammed down to almost touch the barrel, a sporting stock with the barrel channel opened up...

I know that there are a few short bull-barreled 308's on the market, and hope to hear from owners, get their impressions on how they behave, and also any building advice.

My idea is to buy a regular .308 bull-barrel rifle and cut the barrel down. There may be a better way to go.

Any information on this while I am still in the planning stage would be greatly appreciated.
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#6068593 - 12/05/15 07:05 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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I have a Rem 700 AAC SD 308 with 16.5 barrel. Shoots lights out with 165 or 175

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#6068606 - 12/05/15 07:09 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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I have a Mossberg MVP in 308, heavy barrel fluted, adjustable trigger, box mag (5, 10, 20 round), bolt action.
Looks like the Ruger Gunsite but not the expensive. I like it. Haven't tried to stretch it out pass 200. It is already 18".

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#6068632 - 12/05/15 07:25 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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So bash on the guys that know their chit about ballistics, say a short barrel rifle lacks "performance", pass judgement on those of us that know how to make any barrel length work, pass judgement on those of us that know how to hit things target or hide far away, then ask for input on a rifle build? And you're a rifle builder...

F-ing really? loco
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#6068639 - 12/05/15 07:32 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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I bought the Savage 10FCP-SR. It has a 20" threaded heavy barrel. It has the accustock and trigger. It's an awesome rifle right out of the box.

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#6068674 - 12/05/15 07:49 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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JR,

How does it feed with the plastic mag? I've been thinking of getting one. I have a Precision carbine in 223 and a lightweight stainless in 308. Both are incredibly accurate with almost any load right out of the box.
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#6068690 - 12/05/15 07:56 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
So bash on the guys that know their chit about ballistics, say a short barrel rifle lacks "performance", pass judgement on those of us that know how to make any barrel length work, pass judgement on those of us that know how to hit things target or hide far away, then ask for input on a rifle build? And you're a rifle builder...

F-ing really? loco

Beat me to it.
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#6068706 - 12/05/15 08:04 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: scottfromdallas]
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Originally Posted By: scottfromdallas
JR,

How does it feed with the plastic mag? I've been thinking of getting one. I have a Precision carbine in 223 and a lightweight stainless in 308. Both are incredibly accurate with almost any load right out of the box.


I don't use the 10 round that came with it. I purchased the 5 round mags from midwayusa. I have not had any issues

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#6068711 - 12/05/15 08:09 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
So bash on the guys that know their chit about ballistics, say a short barrel rifle lacks "performance", pass judgement on those of us that know how to make any barrel length work, pass judgement on those of us that know how to hit things target or hide far away, then ask for input on a rifle build? And you're a rifle builder...

F-ing really? loco


Was waiting on it.

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#6068713 - 12/05/15 08:11 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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Yet his website only lists a few basic, general services. Rifle builder...I doubt it. Can't even crown a .30 cal barrel in his "shop".

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#6068749 - 12/05/15 08:26 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: FiremanJG]
charlesb Offline
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
So bash on the guys that know their chit about ballistics, say a short barrel rifle lacks "performance", pass judgement on those of us that know how to make any barrel length work, pass judgement on those of us that know how to hit things target or hide far away, then ask for input on a rifle build? And you're a rifle builder...

F-ing really? loco


Has his little girly panties in a twist.

Sober up, JG... Take the ignorant attitude somewhere else.



Edited by charlesb (12/05/15 08:33 PM)
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#6068751 - 12/05/15 08:27 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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Love my 20" SS Remington 308 dubbed as a LTR. Believe it or not in 2009 Remmy made a special run of 100 and here is one of them. Short bbl rifles make perfect stand guns.
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#6068755 - 12/05/15 08:28 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: Dalee7892]
charlesb Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
I have a Mossberg MVP in 308, heavy barrel fluted, adjustable trigger, box mag (5, 10, 20 round), bolt action.
Looks like the Ruger Gunsite but not the expensive. I like it. Haven't tried to stretch it out pass 200. It is already 18".


I'm thinking about handling qualities, have you been happy with the way it feels at the shoulder?

One theory I've developed is that the short, heavy barrel should be good for coming up fast, and then holding steady. - Does it feel that way to you?


Edited by charlesb (12/05/15 08:33 PM)
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#6068770 - 12/05/15 08:35 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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Honestly, you'd have gotten a much more pleasant and informative response if you hadn't chosen to be a complete jerk on that LR chat.

May I suggest a higher fiber diet?

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#6068775 - 12/05/15 08:39 PM Re: Short, Heavy 308 [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb
ignorant attitude


I don't claim to be a rifle builder, bash competent shooters, then ask questions on the THF I should already know the answer to, being a rifle builder.

Who's ignorant?

loco
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