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#6063693 - 12/02/15 08:30 PM What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements?
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I want something I can use from 100yds-1,000yds & anywhere in between. I want to be able to range/judge distance & windage with minimal outside assistance. Please tell me a scope that fits the bill of:
FFP
exposed turrets
MIL/MIL
@ least 16 mag.
@ least 44 obj.
<$900
Thanks!
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#6063722 - 12/02/15 08:38 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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Possibly an old Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44mm/50mm. They don't make the Conquest any more. I have the 50mm and it has all what you need, except 16x mag. I think they made it in Mildot(?) but mine is a #4.

Good luck. Oh and I bought mine brand new in 2011/12 for $700ish, when market price was about $800ish.
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#6063735 - 12/02/15 08:46 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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Vortex 4-16 pst ffp


Or the new night force but it will be Msrp of 1250

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#6063738 - 12/02/15 08:46 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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Vortex Viper FFP PST in 6-24X50.

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#6063749 - 12/02/15 08:51 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
LFD2037 Offline
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The Vortex PST has been my 1st choice, & almost only choice w/these requirements, but told on another forum all Vortex's are junk except the Razor, which I can't afford. I've been happy w/all the Vortex's I've owned but there are a couple guys that are adamant that they are junk so I'm searching other options.
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#6063761 - 12/02/15 08:56 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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SWFA has a 5-20x50 HD display model for $975 on their sample list.
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#6063766 - 12/02/15 08:59 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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Originally Posted By: LFD2037
The Vortex PST has been my 1st choice, & almost only choice w/these requirements, but told on another forum all Vortex's are junk except the Razor, which I can't afford. I've been happy w/all the Vortex's I've owned but there are a couple guys that are adamant that they are junk so I'm searching other options.
Whoever is saying that is full of it.

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#6063782 - 12/02/15 09:09 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: Ryan F.]
LFD2037 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ryan F.
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
The Vortex PST has been my 1st choice, & almost only choice w/these requirements, but told on another forum all Vortex's are junk except the Razor, which I can't afford. I've been happy w/all the Vortex's I've owned but there are a couple guys that are adamant that they are junk so I'm searching other options.
Whoever is saying that is full of it.


I know this but to appease them, I'm seeking other options!!! I'm trying to look @ it thru 'fresh set of eyes' & look @ other options that fit the bill.
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#6063913 - 12/02/15 10:12 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
Cleric Offline
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Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Ryan F.
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
The Vortex PST has been my 1st choice, & almost only choice w/these requirements, but told on another forum all Vortex's are junk except the Razor, which I can't afford. I've been happy w/all the Vortex's I've owned but there are a couple guys that are adamant that they are junk so I'm searching other options.
Whoever is saying that is full of it.


I know this but to appease them, I'm seeking other options!!! I'm trying to look @ it thru 'fresh set of eyes' & look @ other options that fit the bill.



If you compare them sure I would agree with that. Just like a bmw 3 series is junk compared to the track gtr. That doesn't mean a bmw 3 series can't do a lot

When I went elk hunting I took my 4-16 pst and razor spotter. The razor looked brighter which was more noticeable at dusk and dawn, but the pst still held its on. If money was no object than sure razors all the way around, but a pst is a good scope. If I shot at etts, I would let you look at mine

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#6063934 - 12/02/15 10:32 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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Others to look at are the Bushnell LRS or LRHS
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#6064150 - 12/03/15 07:32 AM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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while it is out of your price range the bushnell eliminator III is an awesome scope, tells you windage offset (based on your round entered) and you have to calculate the difference for actual, automatically sets offset for distance (again on your particular round) and gives windage dots you use to offset windage.

had the 4-16 but was just too much for out here, 1,500.00 scope with excellent glass and extremely accurate. has over 4,000 possible rounds you can enter so doubtful you would have much problem finding what you use.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/eliminator-iii-laserscope-series
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#6064699 - 12/03/15 12:44 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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#6064702 - 12/03/15 12:47 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
LFD2037 Offline
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Email from Vortex today:

From: me
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 3:07 PM
To: VX Information
Subject: Vortex Glass Questions



Has the glass in the PST line, specifically the 4-16x50, been changed in the last couple years?

Is the glass the same in a Viper HS 4-16x44 and a PST 4-16x50 and/or 6-24x50?

Is the glass the same in the PST 4-16x50 & 6-24x50?

Is the glass the same in the FFP & SFP PST scopes (w/50mm obj.)?

Thanks!


Ken Calhoun VX <kcalhoun@vortexoptics.com>
To me
Today at 11:40 AM

The Viper HS, HS-LR, HS-T, and Viper PST all share the same glass and that hasn’t changed since their release.



All the best,

**Interesting & not very confidence building in the PST line! Makes me feel my Viper HS was/is a lot better deal than the PST FFP is.
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#6064708 - 12/03/15 12:51 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: LFD2037]
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Bushnell has been getting good reviews. I just got a deal on the 34mm tube 4.5-30 and it looks good. Bright and clear

The glass is similar but as I understand the turrets and build are different between the vortex lines.

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#6064810 - 12/03/15 01:46 PM Re: What Scope(s) Meet These Requirements? [Re: Cleric]
LFD2037 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Cleric
Bushnell has been getting good reviews. I just got a deal on the 34mm tube 4.5-30 and it looks good. Bright and clear

The glass is similar but as I understand the turrets and build are different between the vortex lines.

Does that Bushy beat the PST FFP hands down?
Have you used the newer Burris XTR 2? I'm liking the 4-20x50.
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