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Processor error/dishonesty? #6062741 12/02/15 06:29 PM
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I would like to get estimates of weight for east Texas deer when quartered. I recently took three deer, two does (not fawns, probably 2.5 years) and a mature buck (11-point, 4-5 years, heavy bodied) to a local processor in central Texas. The production log from the processor is meaningless, with lots of scratch outs, incomplete sections, and numbers that show the trim weight is the same as the quartered weight. The weight they now "say" that they had in quarters was 93 pounds total. Originally, they said there was 112 pounds in quarters, which is what I paid for being processed. When I put it into the freezer at home I found that I only received 73 pounds of meat back.

When I contacted to ask them to check the freezer for the missing meat, they eventually replied that the quartered weight they had originally was wrong. They now say that the 93 pounds is all they had in quarters and are offering to refund the extra that I paid in processing for the missing 19 pounds. Foolishly, I dropped the quarters off in ice chests without getting a weight. The shop was busy and couldn't weigh immediately.

The information I have is that they say the three sets of deer quarters (remember, one was a buck twice the size of the does) weighed 37, 27, and 29 pounds. I kept the back straps at home, packaging them myself. I had just over 25 pounds of backstrap for the three deer.

How much should I have received back in boneless meat trim from the does? From the big buck? At this point I don't know if the processor is sloppy and lost my meat, if they are dishonest, or if the deer were smaller than they seemed when I was putting them into and out of the ice chests. I'd appreciate some perspective on the deer meat weights. It sure seems like I have some deer meat missing.

Here is a photo of the buck. The inside spread is almost 19 inches. For scale, I'm 6'7", 265 pounds. Unfortunately, that's the only photo. Someone stole my game camera a few weeks before the season.

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Okay, so here is the photo...

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I would say nobody can give you a weight from that pic.

One reason I don't use processors. Another is that there is a large chance the meat you have didn't come off of your deer. Ive been processing deer since I was 7. At one point I calculated what a good percentage was from dressed carcass weight to de-boned/trimmed meat going into the freezer was, but I have forgotten.

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73lbs for 3 deer?


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Just like a lot of others, I process my own. Spend the money on a quality vacuum sealer and grinder/sausage stuffer and never look back. Plus you'll never have to wonder about shortages and whether or not it's "your" meat you got back. I don't have a smoker but I still manage to make some kick-azz jerky and sausage.


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if memory serves me, as a general rule of thumb, we always used the 50-55% packaged meat weight based on field dressed weight. Example, 100 lb field dressed deer would yield about 50-55 lbs into the freezer, trimmings were ground into hamburger, depending on shot placement based on potential ruined meat from bullet. Taking in quarters only, even less yield percentage of dressed weight (back-straps, tenderloins, neck, rib/flanks removed).


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This is why so many decide to process their own, an it is very rewarding.
It would be interesting to see some numbers from those that have weighed deer at live weight, dressed, quartered, de-boned and packaged. I bet the loss in processing is more than you want.


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I will say most people think they get a lot more meat from a deer than what they actually do.

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simple searcher, my numbers were from processing our own and my dad did not waste any usable meat (hocks to ears). We never had live weight as we always field dressed before loading. We weighed most of our bucks hanging weight field dressed before skinning/quartering within a few hours of shooting. For the meat hunting only years of my life, does would yield 30-40 lbs and bucks 40-60 lbs to the freezer.


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The information I have is that they say the three sets of deer quarters (remember, one was a buck twice the size of the does) weighed 37, 27, and 29 pounds. I kept the back straps at home, packaging them myself.


You receiving 73 lbs of meat seems about right for those weights. I think people tend to way overestimate meat quantities and especially so when it comes to Texas whitetails.

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If the processor was doing this, he would probably be doing to it a lot of customers and would soon be out of business. Like Blazin posted, sounds about right.

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The information I have is that they say the three sets of deer quarters (remember, one was a buck twice the size of the does) weighed 37, 27, and 29 pounds. I kept the back straps at home, packaging them myself.


You receiving 73 lbs of meat seems about right for those weights. I think people tend to way overestimate meat quantities and especially so when it comes to Texas whitetails.


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98 pounds (their 73, your 25) from the three deer seems a touch light, but not out of the realm. I don't know what deer are like in your area but we get ~30 lbs off a standard Mills County doe. We weighed a couple 2-3 years ago that we thought we were getting light returns from the processor, and those two returned 26 and 29 pounds of boneless round steak, straps, and chili grind.

We now have a vacuum packer, a #12 grinder, a smoker, and a tenderizer and I hope to do more of our own going forward as I still think they might be shorting us. In the very least they don't cut the hams the way I'd like and as a result we get less round steak.


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Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
I will say most people think they get a lot more meat from a deer than what they actually do.


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Simple solution: Cut your own meat. I have never paid to have an animal processed. With a little practice you can cur, wrap and grind a deer in less than 2 hrs and you know exactly how your meat is handled.

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Originally Posted By: PMK
simple searcher, my numbers were from processing our own and my dad did not waste any usable meat (hocks to ears). We never had live weight as we always field dressed before loading. We weighed most of our bucks hanging weight field dressed before skinning/quartering within a few hours of shooting. For the meat hunting only years of my life, does would yield 30-40 lbs and bucks 40-60 lbs to the freezer.


I saw your post after after I put up mine. Your post beat mine by a few minutes. Good information.


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First the buck most likely did not weight double of the does. Maybe 30% more.
Next the best figure I have ever come up with is about 40% of field dressed weight and you only had the quarters so I would guess that would be less
Say buck 130 field dressed, does 70 that would be 270.
40% of that is 108 less 20 lbs for backs traps and the rest for rib eat and flanks you didn't take I Luke say 73 words be close to right.

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Here is an example in rough numbers. My dad shot a spike this year on our place it was 1.5 YO weighed 105 live weight 80 lbs dressed and they got 4.5 gallon bags of meat. We keep our meet in gallon freezer bags and find them to weigh about 8 lbs. The live and dressed weights were accurate on a scale, the 36 lbs is an estimation but based on historical evidence.

That is 36 lbs of meat from a field dress weight of 80 lbs or 45% of the dressed weight. All of the weights seem suspect to me, but a lot of it depends on body size of the deer. In the hill country we used to shoot 2-3 yo deer that dressed 80-90 lbs. At our place now we have shot 1-5 year olds that have dressed anywhere from 105-150 something lbs.


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Originally Posted By: huntwest
First the buck most likely did not weight double of the does. Maybe 30% more.
Next the best figure I have ever come up with is about 40% of field dressed weight and you only had the quarters so I would guess that would be less
Say buck 130 field dressed, does 70 that would be 270.
40% of that is 108 less 20 lbs for backs traps and the rest for rib eat and flanks you didn't take I Luke say 73 words be close to right.

You should get a higher % of meat from quarters than field dressed weight, no skin head or probably back bone.


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Sounds right, exspecially if didn't add any pork or beef and you kept the back straps.


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So the consensus is that there is no consensus. Some are saying there should be more meat, others are saying there shouldn't.

1) The final, total, processed weight for three deer quarters and back strap was 98 pounds. The total reported by the processor for 12 quarters (2 doe & 1 buck) was 73 pounds.

2) I have processed myself in the past, just didn't have time this year. I still make my own sausage and jerky. In previous years, there seemed to be a good bit more meat than these yielded.

3) The deer were well fed, from east Texas, near Nacogdoches.

4) The buck WAS much heavier that the does. I could lift all four quarters of each doe at once. I could not easily lift a half (single hindquarter and a forequarter) from the buck-- I had to lift each into the chest separately. Possibly not double, but certainly more than 30% larger.

My error was clearly not verifying the initial weight of the quarters to be processed. Without that information I can never know. The reason I am suspicious is that there are lots of changes and scratch-outs on the processing logs AND I was told the original weight was 112. In either case, (73/93 or 93/112) the yield from quarters to processed shows as over 80%. That means the change in starting weight from 112 to 93 is a loss of substantial meat. I still don't believe that 73 pounds is the yield from three mature deer.

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Were they all shot in the head? Just letting you know you left lots of unopened questions, but I still bet they didn't steal your meat.


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My son's 210 pound field dressed buck yielded 81 pounds of meat total. I've always been told 40% of field dressed weigh....... that's pretty close

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I just do my own....I know "everything" that happened to it beginning to end....

I've heard of stories of people ending up with other peoples meat along with other problems....


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I've tried processing my own deer and I admit, I suk at it.
Landers processing in Garland is legit. The deer you take is the deer you get back.
I've had them walk me through their process. They say it's a lot easier to
process one animal at a time than to mix them up and try to sort out the meat later.
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37, 29, and 27 less the back straps sounds reasonable if no other trimmings were included. Did you picked up 73 lb of venison ? Sounds like you got a deal if they are refund you for the 19 pounds.


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