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Re: hog shot placement
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12/02/15 05:29 PM
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No offense, mikei, but this is one of the most terrible hog anatomy images out there. I was being nice, but yes, it is pretty bad... And no offense mikei.... That pic has been flooting around for years... Not an expert like others, have taken the heart & lung shot on hogs with .223 using 55 gr fmj hitting right at top or just a smidge higher than what is pictured were the heart is on that diagram... While i don't use the gutting method, hog didn't travel far... Tis thinking heart sits little higher than in that pic... The heart & lung just like deer gives less room for error... Live target tis always more difficult than 3-D target... Edit: heart shot not best for deer, elk, or hog...
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/02/15 09:19 PM
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OK, here is a picture of a half pig. As you can see, the lung (large pink organ) is almost directly above the leg. The smaller organ below the lung is the heart. It is no more than 2 inches inside the chest cavity, closer to an inch. Both are tucked in behind the shoulder pretty good. Unless you get an oblique (quartering) shot in behind the shoulder, a direct shot has a reasonable chance of hitting large bone and deflecting. If you hit a bit further back, that darker red organ is the liver. The pig would most likely die from a liver shot, but it will run and you may never find it.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/02/15 09:30 PM
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I have been wondering for a long time. I know if you shoot an elk in the back leg it can't get up so you can go up to it and shoot it. Since a hog is worthless if you pick up by its back legs will a hog be the same way as an elk if you shoot it in the back leg? Why would one shoot an elk in the back leg? You shouldn't mean to I agree but I have seen some that have been quartering away with high winds at long range and they aimed a little to far back.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/02/15 11:47 PM
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OK, here is a picture of a half pig. As you can see, the lung (large pink organ) is almost directly above the leg. The smaller organ below the lung is the heart. It is no more than 2 inches inside the chest cavity, closer to an inch. Both are tucked in behind the shoulder pretty good. Unless you get an oblique (quartering) shot in behind the shoulder, a direct shot has a reasonable chance of hitting large bone and deflecting. If you hit a bit further back, that darker red organ is the liver. The pig would most likely die from a liver shot, but it will run and you may never find it.
Heck, you can't demonstrate it any better than that. Thanks, dfwroadkill. Dang, he goes out and cuts one in half to show us. That's impressive!
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/02/15 11:52 PM
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OK, here is a picture of a half pig. As you can see, the lung (large pink organ) is almost directly above the leg. The smaller organ below the lung is the heart. It is no more than 2 inches inside the chest cavity, closer to an inch. Both are tucked in behind the shoulder pretty good. Unless you get an oblique (quartering) shot in behind the shoulder, a direct shot has a reasonable chance of hitting large bone and deflecting. If you hit a bit further back, that darker red organ is the liver. The pig would most likely die from a liver shot, but it will run and you may never find it. This is why I like a shoulder shot either mid height, low height or even high works. You lose some shoulder meat but they drop in their tracks and do not run.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/03/15 01:17 AM
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I like right at the bottom of the ear or in the face.....
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/03/15 03:13 AM
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My favorite shot is in the ear hole
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/04/15 02:28 AM
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/04/15 02:34 AM
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Moderators: please delete this post immediately. The diagram of the hog's innards is anatomically incorrect.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/04/15 03:22 AM
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OK, I sincerely apologize for posting this terrible hog anatomy image and will immediately delete it. I've used it as a guide for hunting for years and had no idea it was so incorrect. No big deal Mikei, an honest mistake. That depiction has been floating around the internet for quite a few years. It IS indeed among the 'worst' representations out there, but many folks would not be aware of that. We appreciate your efforts and continuing desire to share information. Flint.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/04/15 04:33 AM
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Couldn'the agree more Flint...
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/04/15 05:31 AM
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/04/15 03:02 PM
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OK, I sincerely apologize for posting this terrible hog anatomy image and will immediately delete it. I've used it as a guide for hunting for years and had no idea it was so incorrect. No big deal Mikei, an honest mistake. That depiction has been floating around the internet for quite a few years. We appreciate your efforts and continuing desire to share information. Flint. its been used in other threads, tis first time heard it was a bad diagram... i constantly get it for my bad grammer... Edit: when i mentioned it floating around for years on page 2 spelt floating wrong...
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/05/15 11:03 AM
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Brain shots make it pretty easy, great example pic btw.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/05/15 06:59 PM
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This image shows three shots on a hog. He is already dead at this point, but does not know it. Thar be a little editing on my part... As DNS posted, the two shots heart & lung area, usualy result in what is called death run just like with deer... The shot further back can also result in a dead hog... Leg shot hogs & deer have known ta survive... One must realize difference in stationary target & live target... i got cheap posts...
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/05/15 07:25 PM
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Here is a diagram that recommends where to shoot for a head shot. It is from a manual on destroying/slaughtering livestock. Point "b" is normally my aim-point. If looking at you, then the forehead above the bridge of the snout between the eyes. According the the manual, the front point can be used for a "bolt gun" in the slaughterhouse, but the side point requires a bullet. The is the link to what seems to be a pretty clear diagram. Still drawn, so accuracy may vary. A copy of the image (with a watermark for the source) is below. http://www.medical-artist.com/assets/images/Pig-Female-anatomy.jpg
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/05/15 07:30 PM
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Here is a diagram that recommends where to shoot for a head shot. It is from a manual on destroying/slaughtering livestock. Point "b" is normally my aim-point. If looking at you, then the forehead above the bridge of the snout between the eyes. According the the manual, the front point can be used for a "bolt gun" in the slaughterhouse, but the side point requires a bullet. The is the link to what seems to be a pretty clear diagram. Still drawn, so accuracy may vary. A copy of the image (with a watermark for the source) is below. http://www.medical-artist.com/assets/images/Pig-Female-anatomy.jpg I always told my boys to make an "X" between the eyes and ears and shoot middle of th "X" or at the base of the ear....thanks for posting StretchR
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/07/15 08:30 PM
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Only one I ever shot was in one ear and out the other. About a 170# boar and dropped where it stood. Kicked it's legs twice and expired.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/07/15 09:10 PM
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Shot this one last night with a lowly 5.56 soft point...dropped and started kicking. I put two more into his throat to try and get him to stop kicking (didn't work), but first shot was lethal, highlighted by poorly edited red arrow (this is exit wound) That is where I aim for hogs with any round, and if I hit there with any round it is down piggie.
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Re: hog shot placement
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12/09/15 03:12 AM
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I stated on another thread that I have killed several fairly large hogs with a .223 using a 75 gr. BTHP put in the proper place, but that reminded me of a really big boar that I shot with a .300 WSM with 150 BSTs. I shot him at about 200 yd. off of sticks standing and hit him in the liver. He went down, uttered a blood curdling roar ( if I had been in the woods in the dark I would have peed my pants ) and got back on his feet and dragged himself into the neighbors property. I got back into my truck, drove down there expecting to administer the coup de grace with my 10mm and he was gone. Since I didn't have permission to go on the neighbor's, I didn't pursue. About three days later, I saw a couple dozen buzzards fly up at dark around 150 yd. from where I shot him. Hogs can be really tough !
Oh, I know I hit his liver from the color of the blood on the ground. And he regained his back legs about ten feet into the other property because the drag marks disappeared. Really, really tough !
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