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#6056256 - 11/29/15 01:36 PM Retrieving
TXPanhandler Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 09/12/12
Posts: 470
Loc: Texas Panhandle
I am in no way, shape or form a bird dog trainer. I have always just let the dogs train themselves. My dads dogs are all and have always been done this way as well. The last few dogs we've had (our current crew) do not retrieve birds like the dogs of the past. Do you all train them to retrieve in some way? We never did anything to the older dogs they just brought the birds back. Some have it and some don't maybe? My youngest dog's dad is an NFC dog who retrieve's very well. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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#6056484 - 11/29/15 03:33 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: TXPanhandler]
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Registered: 08/01/09
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Loc: Spring, Tx
I know some dogs have a natural retrieve, but I'm a believer in force fetch.
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#6056629 - 11/29/15 04:51 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: TXPanhandler]
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Registered: 06/29/15
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Loc: Magnolia, TX
I always try to bring out the natural retrieve in pups by throwing a dummy with wings tied tightly to it...just a few times per day...perhaps 3...and then put it up...and always try to end with a good retrieve...I even give them a treat if they bring it to hand but only if they bring it to hand. Some have it...some don't...sometimes a little competition from another dog will ignite the retrieving gene...for those who cannot develop a natural retrieve one can always and should use force breaking...

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#6056837 - 11/29/15 06:13 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: TXPanhandler]
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The most dependable pointer I ever had would not retrieve to hand, but she was the best I ever had at finding dead birds. I never minded walking to her to get them.
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#6057050 - 11/29/15 07:39 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: TXPanhandler]
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I nurture their natural instinct at a young age and go from there.
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#6057153 - 11/29/15 08:19 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: bill oxner]
TXPanhandler Offline
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Registered: 09/12/12
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
The most dependable pointer I ever had would not retrieve to hand, but she was the best I ever had at finding dead birds. I never minded walking to her to get them.


This never bothers me either, but some of the folks we hunt with just stand there and tell them to retrieve it while they chew them up instead of going to get them like I do.
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#6057315 - 11/29/15 09:20 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: TXPanhandler]
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Registered: 03/17/11
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Loc: Rowlett, Texas
Mine will retrieve......sometimes. A lot of times, I just need them to come in and hunt dead for me and at least show me the bird. Getting a dog in close to hunt dead after the excitement of the flush dies down presents a challenge more than retrieving sometimes. Some dogs like to hunt dead, some don't. It is a thing of beauty for the ones that do.

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#6057747 - 11/30/15 08:29 AM Re: Retrieving [Re: TXPanhandler]
kindall Offline


Registered: 08/01/09
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Loc: Spring, Tx
It depends on the hunt, as to if it bothers me on a dog not retrieving.
Most of the wild quail we hunt it's no big deal, as long as the dog will hunt dead.
On the canned pheasant hunts, or tower shoots, its a different story. Some of the customers are great shots, and some not as good. I'm not complaining, as my shooting could be better. But I want my dog to retrieve on those hunts. Nothing changes your mind like having to walk 50 yards through a muddy cornfield to pick up a bird.
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#6059010 - 11/30/15 06:41 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: kindall]
TXPanhandler Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 09/12/12
Posts: 470
Loc: Texas Panhandle
My only problem with them not retrieving is when they chew birds up right in front of someone. They all hunt dead, they just won't bring one back.
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#6059135 - 11/30/15 07:24 PM Re: Retrieving [Re: TXPanhandler]
rdh1 Offline
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Registered: 09/01/09
Posts: 959
Loc: Moffat,Tx
I do not have pointers, but when I get one inwhich might be the next dog I get. I will want it to retrieve to hand
That is the way my labs are trained. That is my .02
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