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 Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/02/15 02:49 PM
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You can take me for a grain of salt if you want or not. IMO any good bird dog is going to have energy to burn every day. You need to make it a priority to get the dog running every day then they will be good to go in the house. You mentioned 600'acres. I would agree a medium range dog but what i call medium range is 100 to 200 yards. The whole idea of a pointer is to cover ground so you wont have to. 50 yard range you will be following that dog everywhere. May as well have a flusher at that. The heat in your area is going to be a factor so i would stay away from a GWP or any long haired dog. IMO the top pointing breeds are pointers, setters, and GSP
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/02/15 02:59 PM
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^^^ Agree with the medium range definition and heat factors.
I'll take a Black Female every time.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/03/15 12:44 AM
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Is that a GSP leading the cops in the California shooting suspect chase?
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/03/15 11:24 AM
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^^^ Agree with the medium range definition and heat factors. I agree with range definition but the two GSP's that have owned (never again) couldn't handle the heat near as well as my Brittany's. Nor could they find birds as well either.
Haven't had it in years but never spit any out. I am a sucker for happy endings and strapped cowboys.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/03/15 02:00 PM
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Okay guys
After taking the dogs out for a run, I have to agree with you. I was wrong on the medium range.
Shopping with your husband is like hunting with the game warden.
Experience is what you get, when you didn't get what you wanted.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/04/15 12:51 AM
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Is there any preference for colors or color patterns for GSP's?
Kinda like how ive always heard with labs. blacks are the smartest followed by yellows and lastly chocolates. I dont really buy into it, but my best lab has been a black second is ny current chocolate.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/04/15 01:08 AM
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I've hunted with both colors. The white ones with liver spots are the easiest to see in the field.
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/16/15 04:38 AM
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Try looking up Rio Concho Kennels out of san angelo. They breed versatile gsp's that like to get out and range.
Jason
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/17/15 12:39 PM
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I know several of the south Tx guides and they use only English Pointers with a few English Setters.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/17/15 06:40 PM
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Pointers, Brittanys, shorthairs, and setters are going to be your best pointing dog breeds. Generally speaking. As to what is dominating field trials, it varies, but all 4 of those breeds do extremely well. And any of the 4 is a safer bet to get a good puppy from a good breeder. I personally like Brittanys the best, then pointers and shorthairs, then setters. However, I haven't got to hunt with too many setters. Out of those 4 shorthairs have the smallest range of them, but that's not saying much because the other 3 breeds really have some wheels and a big motor most of the time. Good luck with your search.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/20/15 04:26 PM
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One thing ive seen with pointers and retrievers is a great field trials dog sometimes makes a horrible companion and its skill set doesnt always 100% translate to an actual hunting scenario. For example, my retriever was trained with field trials in mind and he performs better than when actually hunting with me. Hes a great hunting dog, but its not as sharp when he works drills. Now im not a professional handler just personal observations. In talking to some very knowledgeable folks i think when the time is right ill be going after a navhda blood line. Not set on a britt, gsp, or drathaar yet.
Has anyone experienced the same phenomena with field trial dogs/bloodlines?
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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Field trial rejects make excellent hunting dogs
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/25/15 06:47 PM
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Well, a bit of luck and the man upstairs smiling down on me. A drathaar breeder who is a friend of a friend ended up giving me a female puppy. Just need to wait till they are weaned. I really have grown fond of these dogs and their versatility. I cant ever breed her without consent and some other stipulations, but im cool with that. I was dang near about to pull the trigger on a navhda gsp. I couldnt pass up a vwey expensive dog with the right bloodline, characteristics, and breed. I will say this i had no clue how protective as far as breeding and the bloodlines some of these dog breeds can be. Ive only had labs. Ill keep everyone posted, since shes a german dog im think Adaline and addy for short. Not to many pretty german female names to choose from or i can find. If yall have german female name suggestions throw em my way.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/26/15 02:57 AM
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Jorge Go to www.vdd-gna.org. You can join, they have a great group for this area. Went to a meeting in Taylor. Those are great dogs. As a matter of fact the breed warden lives in Lake Jackson
There is time, and you must take it, to lay your hand on your dog's head as you walk past him lying on the floor or on his settle, time to talk with him, to remember with him, time to please him, time you can't buy back once he's gone" GBE
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/26/15 03:07 AM
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Jorge Go to www.vdd-gna.org. You can join, they have a great group for this area. Went to a meeting in Taylor. Those are great dogs. As a matter of fact the breed warden lives in Lake Jackson Jorge has mentioned he knows Kevin through a mutual friend.
I'll take a Black Female every time.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/26/15 03:10 AM
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Well, a bit of luck and the man upstairs smiling down on me. A drathaar breeder who is a friend of a friend ended up giving me a female puppy. Just need to wait till they are weaned. I really have grown fond of these dogs and their versatility. I cant ever breed her without consent and some other stipulations, but im cool with that. I was dang near about to pull the trigger on a navhda gsp. I couldnt pass up a vwey expensive dog with the right bloodline, characteristics, and breed. I will say this i had no clue how protective as far as breeding and the bloodlines some of these dog breeds can be. Ive only had labs. Ill keep everyone posted, since shes a german dog im think Adaline and addy for short. Not to many pretty german female names to choose from or i can find. If yall have german female name suggestions throw em my way. Congrats! What kennel is your puppy from ?
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I'll take a Black Female every time.
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/26/15 09:28 PM
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Jorge Go to www.vdd-gna.org. You can join, they have a great group for this area. Went to a meeting in Taylor. Those are great dogs. As a matter of fact the breed warden lives in Lake Jackson Jorge has mentioned he knows Kevin through a mutual friend. I guess that's what I get jumping in at the end. 
There is time, and you must take it, to lay your hand on your dog's head as you walk past him lying on the floor or on his settle, time to talk with him, to remember with him, time to please him, time you can't buy back once he's gone" GBE
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Re: Would like opinions and recommendations for pointing dog.
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12/27/15 06:48 AM
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Im not to sure my friend who is best friends with kevin hooked me up with the puppy because of kevin from what i understand. So big thanks to the both of them. I dont have all the details yet. When i get back home im going to get with both of them. Im really excited. i love my lab Bo, but being around their drathaars has been a real treat, and excited in having a dog with the potential for multiple skills.
I believe my friend said ill be picking it up in the austin area of i remember right???
Wife got to pick name since next dog was supposed to be for her. And because of Bill's Muffin, it was supposed to be one just like it. Thanks Bill, jk we like the pics of Muffin. We agreed on Amy/Amelia.
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