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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: TEXASLEFTY]
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11/27/15 05:52 PM
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MClark
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Welcome to the forum, thanks for posting that up! What is that rifle it sure looks nice. Thank you, glad to be here and able to contribute. I lurked here for quite a while and finally registered. I work for a gunsmith, David Van Horn, so I can make what I want. The rifle is a stainless Remington 700 short action . The cartridge I designed to meet the recent rules change in Michigan to allow pistol caliber rifles in the shotgun zone, I have a friend who lives there, it is a 30-06 case cut to 1.8" with a 44 caliber bullet, I called it 44MLC- my initials. The stock is fiddleback maple, in this picture it can't be seen but it is a straight grip patterned along the lines of a Winchester lever gun. I did 90% of the work on the rifle, even drilling and rifling the barrel. I used a Hornady 265 grain FTP, rubber tip, this hog went down without taking a step. Mark
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: nak]
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11/27/15 07:43 PM
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ScottA
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I see a lot in the 150 - 175 range. A few in the 175 - 200 range. I call them big at 200#. 250s are REALLY big and rare in my book.
Over 250 is definately Monster territory. This.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: MClark]
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11/27/15 07:53 PM
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bigjoe8565
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Welcome to the forum, thanks for posting that up! What is that rifle it sure looks nice. Thank you, glad to be here and able to contribute. I lurked here for quite a while and finally registered. I work for a gunsmith, David Van Horn, so I can make what I want. The rifle is a stainless Remington 700 short action . The cartridge I designed to meet the recent rules change in Michigan to allow pistol caliber rifles in the shotgun zone, I have a friend who lives there, it is a 30-06 case cut to 1.8" with a 44 caliber bullet, I called it 44MLC- my initials. The stock is fiddleback maple, in this picture it can't be seen but it is a straight grip patterned along the lines of a Winchester lever gun. I did 90% of the work on the rifle, even drilling and rifling the barrel. I used a Hornady 265 grain FTP, rubber tip, this hog went down without taking a step. Mark Welcome to the forum. Nice pig and even nicer rifle. If you shot another pig take some pics of the wound channel.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/27/15 08:45 PM
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TEXASLEFTY
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Thanks for responding. That's a neat rifle just has the bolt handle on he wrong side.
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/27/15 09:04 PM
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Here's a sow I shot before I bought a big set of scales. We guessed her over 400. The man in the picture is 6'6" tall and tips in at 300lbs. She was much bigger than him. What would yall guess her at?
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/27/15 10:48 PM
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MClark
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Welcome to the forum, thanks for posting that up! What is that rifle it sure looks nice. Thank you, glad to be here and able to contribute. I lurked here for quite a while and finally registered. I work for a gunsmith, David Van Horn, so I can make what I want. The rifle is a stainless Remington 700 short action . The cartridge I designed to meet the recent rules change in Michigan to allow pistol caliber rifles in the shotgun zone, I have a friend who lives there, it is a 30-06 case cut to 1.8" with a 44 caliber bullet, I called it 44MLC- my initials. The stock is fiddleback maple, in this picture it can't be seen but it is a straight grip patterned along the lines of a Winchester lever gun. I did 90% of the work on the rifle, even drilling and rifling the barrel. I used a Hornady 265 grain FTP, rubber tip, this hog went down without taking a step. Mark Welcome to the forum. Nice pig and even nicer rifle. If you shot another pig take some pics of the wound channel. We only found fragments of the bullets and no exit wounds. It would be considered poor bullet performance but the hogs shot dropped. Mark
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/27/15 11:26 PM
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bigjoe8565
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Did you shot the pig in Michigan? If so, how prolific is the feral hog population there?
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/27/15 11:58 PM
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MClark
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Did you shot the pig in Michigan? If so, how prolific is the feral hog population there? Shot in Texas. The gun was made to meet the Michigan rules as I have a friend with a farm there but this year I went to TX. Mark
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/28/15 02:32 AM
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250-300+ Is a big hog in my book
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/28/15 03:38 AM
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It depends on their food source. I have killed two this past year north of 250 with baby white pearly teeth. Anything close to or north of 300 lbs is big with crops around. I estimate weight by taking length and girth measurements. The one I mentioned earlier had a girth of 49" and baby teeth.
Big Beckett!!
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: scalebuster]
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11/28/15 03:39 AM
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Ramsey
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Here's a sow I shot before I bought a big set of scales. We guessed her over 400. The man in the picture is 6'6" tall and tips in at 300lbs. She was much bigger than him. What would yall guess her at? thats a big sow
Big Beckett!!
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/28/15 05:44 AM
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Does it fit in the oven? Yes, right size. Does it fit in my smoker? Yes, A little over sized. Does it take more than one cooler when quartered? Yes, fair sized hog. Does my jeep drag @$$ when it is loaded on my receiver shelf? Yes, big hog...
Seriously, after 200lbs every pound looks like two, and after 300 each pound looks like three. This is true for both feral and domestic hogs. We always take bets on weights before we string then up and between hunting hogs for ages and raising hogs I have developed an eye over the years. But I tell you I get caught underestimating a fair bit because even with thick hair a lean 250lb wild hog looks like a 200lb fat barnyard hog.
I am impressed when I see a wild hog over 300lbs. Especially knowing what a 300lb hogs feed bill is.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/28/15 07:17 AM
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Honestly 200+ is a big pig. Most people's 200 or 300 pound hogs are 120-150. See it all the time. I've seen all sizes and have been wrong plenty of times but have gotten pretty good over the years at judging them. Plus or minus a few! I shot one this evening. The pics I took didn't do it justice at all. He was solid. Pigs have diff statures just like people. I've seen long pigs that look bigger than they are weigh a fraction of what they looked. And seen what looked like a 150-160 pound pig hit 220. Some are just built stout. My statement above about 200-300 pigs only weighing 120-150 usually comes from rookie or novice hunters that I've guided before and very little to no experience. All dead ones are trophys in my book. With all this rain pigs have been pushed out of the bottoms around me and are wrecking shop on my land and my parents land.
It's not how you fall, It's how you get up.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/28/15 08:33 AM
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skinnerback
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I have learned that most people underestimate distance and overestimate weight. The best thing to do is drill yourself. I am constantly drilling myself on distances & weights. Pick a bush, guess the distance, then step it off. Same goes for weight. Judge a pig on the hoof, then after it's down, then put him/her on the scale. Just like judging the length of a fish, if you practice regularly you will get pretty good at it. You trap pigs too? Next time, judge their weight at the trap big or small...every time. Pull them out live or dead and put them on the scale. Practice. Yes most people overestimate pig weights.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/28/15 03:56 PM
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1860.colt
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cool thread... Unless a hog tis put ta scale, the weight tis just an estamite... Tis more inta the en & chillen... Think most would agree a dead hog weigh's in more than a live hog...
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/28/15 04:19 PM
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
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11/29/15 02:50 AM
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Anything over 200 for sure, but you know there big when you can't get em in the truck lol had to drag the spotted one he was definately over 300 The one on the truck was 270, I've got tons of other pics of 200 pounders but when you have to ask yourself when you see em at night, is that a cow lol then that's a big one
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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11/30/15 05:08 PM
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This I think qualified.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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12/02/15 04:09 PM
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To me a big boar is anything over 250lbs. A big sow is over 200lbs. I've shot many boars over 250 and 2 sows over 200. Biggest boar is estimated at around 364lbs +/- 10lbs. That was with the heart girth formula: Pig Weight= 10.1709x Heart Girth (56inches) minus 205.7492 which came out to a total of 363.8212lbs. That will probably be the biggest hog I will ever kill. I will post pictures later of him and a little story behind him as well. Formula: Length: A little over 60 inches snout to butt Girth: ~56 inches He stuck out a couple inches off the sides of my 2001 F150 truck bed Had a huge Skull as well with some nice cutters. (I don't have a picture of the european mount with me.) And him weighing down the front end of my Kawasaki Bayou 300
Last edited by Pig Drone; 12/02/15 04:56 PM. Reason: Pictures
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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12/02/15 04:14 PM
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
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12/02/15 04:51 PM
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Shot these opening am of deer season this year. I guess the first at 225 and the second at 300ish maybe larger. We had to take a second look to make sure it was not a cow behind the feeder
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: bigjoe8565]
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12/02/15 04:54 PM
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Depends on how close they are to me.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: Pig Drone]
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12/02/15 05:33 PM
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Now THAT is a big hog! Nice job.
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Re: What's your definition of a big boar?
[Re: BuffaloSpringsRD]
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12/02/15 05:56 PM
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Shot these opening am of deer season this year. I guess the first at 225 and the second at 300ish maybe larger. We had to take a second look to make sure it was not a calf behind the feeder FIFY english got Dminus, how ever did spend time, hauling livestock, guessing weights at sale barn, & worked with a vet, up for a few hog rodeo's before me teens... have back packed few that size back out from down in the hollows in me younger days..
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