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#6040378 - 11/20/15 09:27 AM Running water line for water trough?
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Registered: 08/11/09
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Loc: Ft. Worth/Pidcoke
We've got water running to our property via 3/4" meter like you'd find out in your front yard down by the sreet. We'd like to run a 3/4" water line (either poly or pvc) 1200 ft to a water trough(150gl) and fill it that way as opposed to filling it with several 55gl drums like we've been doing. I'm not sure if a typical residential meter of that size could handle a 1200ft run. I also don't know how long it would take to fill that trough. I'm thinking it would take forever. Thoughts or ideas gentleman?? Thanks!

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#6040398 - 11/20/15 09:38 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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You could put a float valve on the trough end and even if it takes a long time to fill, you could do other things while it is filling.

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#6040399 - 11/20/15 09:40 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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Wont be a cheap run and filling will depend on water pressure at supply and pipe diameter. With a standard psi, I'd bet it fills in less than 10-20 minutes, then the float should take over easy enough. Make sure you insulate anyting above ground good, or use a drainable faucet but you will have to manually shut it off and turn it on by hand during winter.

Similar to this, but I got 2 cheaper at TSC
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#6040413 - 11/20/15 09:44 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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It won't take long to fill. Also, don't use PVC, use poly. Its a bit tougher to work with in rolls, but it's not as fragile and way more forgiving than PVC.
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#6040429 - 11/20/15 09:52 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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When I run a water line to troughs from now on I am using PEX pipe if I do not have cattle. Then I will use the larger diameter Poly pipe and weld the transitions in place. Much longer runs with less glue joints/fittings.
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#6040436 - 11/20/15 09:54 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tShawnB]
tx hunter Offline


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Loc: Ft. Worth/Pidcoke
Im used to working with polly so that and some brass compression fittings is what I'll most likely use. I'm not real concerned with how long it will take to fill just as long as the water gets that far. I'm thinking the hardest part will be trenching all that.

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#6040444 - 11/20/15 09:57 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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Originally Posted By: tx hunter
Im used to working with polly so that and some brass compression fittings is what I'll most likely use. I'm not real concerned with how long it will take to fill just as long as the water gets that far. I'm thinking the hardest part will be trenching all that.


My land is sandy loam, with a hard layer of red clay about 10" down. I used a ride on trencher for a 1480' run and it took me about 2-2.5 hrs to dig the line. My son had the pipe in almost as fast as I dug. Dug to 30" for most of the run. If you have rocky soil................
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#6040472 - 11/20/15 10:07 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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It doesn't freeze hard where I live, so we can get by using a turning plow to make a trench to bury the polly line. Tree roots brought it back to the surface in a couple of places after about 25 years... (black dirt)


Edited by hermano W (11/20/15 10:08 AM)

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#6040478 - 11/20/15 10:09 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: Western]
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Registered: 08/11/09
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Loc: Ft. Worth/Pidcoke
I have rocky soil..... bang Parts of this run shouldn't be bad but some are gonna suck. I'm gonna need a trencher with some juice behind for sure. I think my best bet would be to do in the spring when the ground isn't so hard. Any ideas on where I could rent a good sized trencher?


Edited by tx hunter (11/20/15 10:10 AM)

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#6040485 - 11/20/15 10:13 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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Find a landscaper with a trencher and hire him to dig the line. Probably cheaper than renting a machince for one day. Also done them with a road grader when we had one building roads on the ranch.
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#6040491 - 11/20/15 10:15 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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Almost any equipment rental, rents them. Walk behind is cheaper, but I wouldn't want one for that long a run in rocky soil.

Get a hold of Wburke on here, he has a rental yard somewhere in DFW, bet he could get you ready to go.

I would go ahead and get it done, those ride on's are plenty strong, wont be froze too deep anyway. We have another wet spring and you will have a mess on your hands.
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#6040500 - 11/20/15 10:18 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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I had a video of doing this on our place. My Dad built one 25 years ago and we still use it and most recently a few months ago. We ran about a mile of water line to our cattle lots. We don't have the spool attached to our ripper so it took a little while to stretch the pipe out with the four wheeler but not that long. After that I just walked along beside the tractor to make sure the pipe was fed smoothly. Fastest way to run water line for sure.
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#6040573 - 11/20/15 10:55 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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How many animals are you trying to supply water to? Just wildlife on LF or cattle, and or wildlife or HF? If deman is going to be high depending on size of trough you may want to look into a storage tank that then feeds the trough so at max demand say 30 head of cattle getting their water for the day it maintains instead of puts a ton of draw on the supply line. Just a thought.
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#6040579 - 11/20/15 10:58 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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You can also use a drain valve on the troph with some more poly as a continuous siphon leaving supply valve open a hair and drain open a hair to keep constant movement. Much easier to do with a storage tank. You can also run the drain line to another trough. In sequence if you will so the water doesn't just go to waste or run to a tank or somthing.
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#6040594 - 11/20/15 11:02 AM Re: Running water line for water trough? [Re: tx hunter]
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Sorry the continuos siphon idea is to keep trough from freezing. Didn't make that clear.
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