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#6038019 - 11/18/15 08:22 PM Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s)
Lil Joe Offline
Woodsman

Registered: 06/08/14
Posts: 124
Loc: Willis, Tx
I hunt with some people that are insistent on not shooting a doe with fawns. Where we hunt it's just about impossible to find a doe with no fawns. These people end up not shooting any doe because they are so worried about shooting one with fawns. Me personally, I don't worry about it because I feel the young ones are far enough along that they will survive and I like my deer meat. Most years if I didn't shoot a doe or two I wouldn't have any deer meat.

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#6038041 - 11/18/15 08:36 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
stxranchman Offline
Obie Juan Kenobi

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 52092
When fawns are 5 months old they are old enough to live on their own. If your fawns are born in May or June they are 5 months old now. Those born in July can be shot after Thanksgiving.
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#6038066 - 11/18/15 08:47 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
rickym Offline
Extreme Tracker

Registered: 06/14/15
Posts: 3871
Loc: texas
If I do shoot one with fawns its typically if there's a group and there's more 2.5+ year olds than fawns. And I'm not shooting if the fawns still have any spots or don't seem to be doin well.
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#6038067 - 11/18/15 08:48 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
Longhunter Offline


Registered: 01/10/09
Posts: 6304
Loc: Podunk
If the spots are gone, the fawn is old enough to survive... Its amazing the number of hunters that would rather shoot a 1.5 year old buck than a doe for meat. But it is what it is!
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#6038082 - 11/18/15 08:59 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
huntincoach Offline
Tracker

Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 528
Loc: Marble Falls
I passed on a doe with two nubbing bucks last week. Wanted her to take a little more care of her boys and raise them healthy. Good thing, a few minutes after they left, I blew a doe in estrus call and a 24" wide 9 came in.... Boom

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#6038185 - 11/18/15 09:57 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
Fat Tire Offline
Tracker

Registered: 06/01/12
Posts: 950
Loc: Wylie, TX
I was watching a nice size doe through my scope last week with her fawn. I've watched this pair with my game cam over the last few months. I really wanted to put some meat in the freezer and as I'm watching this doe, thinking about freezer meat, her fawn runs up and starts trying to nurse. Shortly after, the fawn started eating corn, but I just couldn't shoot the doe. There were no other deer around, so I wanted to make sure that the fawn could last another month or so. In return for my patience, I was given a shot at an 8pt AR legal buck, which I did harvest. I will shoot that doe later if needed, though.

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#6038223 - 11/18/15 10:28 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
StretchR Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 05/14/14
Posts: 309
Loc: Hutto, TX (Williamson Co)
Like some of the others, if a doe has a fawn with spots still, I'll pass. So far that's never kept me from putting meat into the freezer.

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#6038225 - 11/18/15 10:29 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
Curly Offline
Overrated

Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 20116
Loc: Sittin on my butt on the THF
No spots on the fawns, mom is fair game.
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#6038226 - 11/18/15 10:33 PM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
QuitShootinYoungBucks Offline
THF Trophy Hunter

Registered: 11/01/12
Posts: 6465
Loc: Lubbock, TX
IMO as long as the fawn or fawns are good-sized, mom is a target. If the fawn is a jackrabbit I pass. We have a lot of deer, though, and I have time to be selective. I prefer to shoot dry does first, single fawn mothers second and twin mothers last. It always saddens me when a fawn watches me load his mother in the truck.
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#6038347 - 11/19/15 06:35 AM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
maximus_flavius Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 04/24/13
Posts: 385
Why would anyone shoot a doe with a fawn? Do you need to "fill the freezer" that bad?

Spend more time hunting, take a cull buck.

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#6038380 - 11/19/15 06:59 AM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
Texas Dan Offline
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Registered: 07/28/08
Posts: 11243
Yes, many will say that fawns without spots are "old enough to make it." While that may be true to some point, I have seen such deer hang close to the area where the mother was taken for several weeks as if to look for the deer that provides them with guidance. Statistics have also shown that deer collisions with vehicles peaks around the time each year when doe will separate themselves from yearling bucks in anticipation of having their fawns. The fact is, fawns and younger deer would not be with their mothers if there they were not benefiting from them. And who has not observed how the mother doe is the most wary of the two.

So while they may "make it", their chances are far better with the help of an older deer.
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#6038384 - 11/19/15 07:04 AM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
huntwest Offline
Pro Tracker

Registered: 09/17/10
Posts: 1752
Loc: Albany
A doe will chase her young buck off from a feeder and a lot of times completely out of an area. We shoot does with nubbins buck offspring and the bucks then live around the feeders and survive the winters better. When a doe chases it off from easy food its chances of survival go down.
The doe chases the offspring buck off because even at les than a year the buck will start trying to breed the doe. It can't but it tries. The doe of course doesn't allow this to happen and runs the young buck off.

Tex's Dan I agree on the young deer getting run over but if you stop and look at those little deer you will find that 99% of them are young nabbing bucks that the momma ran off, not a hunter shooting the momma deer.


Edited by huntwest (11/19/15 07:08 AM)

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#6038385 - 11/19/15 07:07 AM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
rob valle Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 11/03/11
Posts: 472
Loc: Pipe Creek, TX
Statistics have shown that most deer on deer crime occurs with fawns raised in a one parent or no parent household. So....are you part of the solution, or part of the problem?
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#6038386 - 11/19/15 07:08 AM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
Tenacious Hunter Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 11/13/15
Posts: 49
Loc: Abilene Texas
I shot a doe with a little button buck. I watched them for about an hour, the little button was eating corn, the green wheat sprouts and when he tried to nurse the doe would kick him away. So I figured it would be fine (I don't have a lot of deer like some) I took the doe that morning. That evening the button was back, eating corn and grazing then he got very still starring at the tree line. I glassed it and seen another doe starring him down. She ran out, chased him off and brought her fawn out. Every time he came back she did the same thing! So then I'm feeling bad and witnessing something I didn't even think of, without his mom would the others oust him?? I've got a couple young bucks, maybe 1.5-2 that are running buddies and the next weekend there group of 2 is now 3 and the little button was in the field with them while the chasing doe was at the feeder so this time it worked out but I believe from now on I will pass on doe with fawns!
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#6038387 - 11/19/15 07:09 AM Re: Opinions on Shooting Doe with Fawn(s) [Re: Lil Joe]
hook_n_line Offline
Extreme Tracker

Registered: 01/20/12
Posts: 3929
At my place in Central Tx i wouldn't take does with fawns for the reason, I don't see as many deer as I'd like. Down in South Tx the biologist suggested taking a number of does and sometimes it's part of management to take a doe with a fawn. Most fawns will find a deer to hang around a day or two then start making their place in the herd. I personally don't like to see the lonely looking fawn but after a few days it's all good. I think I'm getting to be a softy. confused2
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