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#6032251 - 11/16/15 09:41 AM hard to believe
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But, I have a mule deer doe on our place outside of Austin. I've seen it a couple times already hanging out with a whitetail spike. I have absolutely no clue how it got here or where it came from, maybe an escapee from a high fence? Next time I see it I'll have my camera ready. No doubt it has the big ears and solid white rear of a mulie, and has the same bouncing run. Now, since Bastrop county doesn't have a mule deer season, is it considered an exotic or is it off limits? Does anyone have a link to the regs on this?


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#6032272 - 11/16/15 09:48 AM Re: hard to believe [Re: Erichugh22]
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I would have to see pics to believe it. The only Mule Deer outside of the TransPecos and Panhandle will be in licensed breeding pens. Since there is no season in your county for them, I would think you can not shoot it. It still is a native species and fall under TPWD guidelines and regs.
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#6032274 - 11/16/15 09:49 AM Re: hard to believe [Re: Erichugh22]
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I'm pretty positive since mule deer are found in Texas that it's illegal to take one in a county that doesn't have a season. But that is a cool sighting!
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#6032496 - 11/16/15 11:25 AM Re: hard to believe [Re: Erichugh22]
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Quick solution and answer, call your county GW
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#6032511 - 11/16/15 11:29 AM Re: hard to believe [Re: rickym]
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Quick solution and answer, call your county GW


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#6032550 - 11/16/15 11:49 AM Re: hard to believe [Re: SniperRAB]
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IF its a native game animal to Tx and you do not have a season you cannot shoot it...

that's if its a muley indeed...
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#6032560 - 11/16/15 11:54 AM Re: hard to believe [Re: Erichugh22]
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I'm not so sure why you think it would be hard to believe. Mulies exist in the state and as such they can and do move around. I believe some deer are just wanderers. Once when I was driving through Missouri I saw a mulie in a hay meadow. I had to turn around and double check, but that is what it was. I grew up in CO so I know what mulies look like. For what it is worth I once killed a whitetail buck along the Colorado River outside Kremmling, CO. I took it to the DOW office in Hot Sulfur Springs and they said they had never heard of one in that area. This buck was at least 150 miles west of where he should have been and was on the wrong side of the Continental Divide to boot.

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#6032665 - 11/16/15 12:46 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: Erichugh22]
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Bastrop is about 250 miles minimum from the eastern edge home range of mule deer in West Texas. Don't think that is ideal Mule Deer habitat. Any chance is was a Sika doe, they have similar color and white rump patch along with the bouncing run as Mule Deer, just not the huge ears. Sika Deer are free ranging all over the Hill Country. If it is a Mule Deer then my vote is an escapee from a mule deer breeder pen in that area with all the recent flooding. Does it have any ear tags?
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#6032679 - 11/16/15 12:51 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: Flags]
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Originally Posted By: Flags
I'm not so sure why you think it would be hard to believe. Mulies exist in the state and as such they can and do move around. I believe some deer are just wanderers. Once when I was driving through Missouri I saw a mulie in a hay meadow. I had to turn around and double check, but that is what it was. I grew up in CO so I know what mulies look like. For what it is worth I once killed a whitetail buck along the Colorado River outside Kremmling, CO. I took it to the DOW office in Hot Sulfur Springs and they said they had never heard of one in that area. This buck was at least 150 miles west of where he should have been and was on the wrong side of the Continental Divide to boot.


Whitetails are 100x more adaptive then Mule deer.

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#6032704 - 11/16/15 01:04 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: Erichugh22]
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That's way further south than I've ever heard of one. I will say their range seems to be expanding in the last 10yrs. Seeing more and more around Sweetwater/Abilene. Saw a fork horn outside Blackwell last year.

Could be the drought or fires pushing them south in my area, because there's an established herd in Fisher county. Austin is too far south I would think....

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#6032722 - 11/16/15 01:10 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: Erichugh22]
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We have mule deer shot every couple of years in MN. The nearest natural range is the Missouri river. Here's a story fron Wisconsin http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/05/rare-mule-deer-harvested-in-wisconsin/75238868/
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#6032774 - 11/16/15 01:34 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: nsmike]
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Originally Posted By: nsmike
We have mule deer shot every couple of years in MN. The nearest natural range is the Missouri river. Here's a story fron Wisconsin http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/05/rare-mule-deer-harvested-in-wisconsin/75238868/

I would think Canada and North Dakota would be much closer for most of the upper half of your state though, would it not?
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#6032785 - 11/16/15 01:39 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Any chance is was a Sika doe, they have similar color and white rump patch along with the bouncing run as Mule Deer, just not the huge ears.


Wow, I don't think I've ever seen one so I looked it up. They do have similar colorations.

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#6032962 - 11/16/15 03:07 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: nsmike
We have mule deer shot every couple of years in MN. The nearest natural range is the Missouri river. Here's a story fron Wisconsin http://www.kare11.com/story/news/2015/11/05/rare-mule-deer-harvested-in-wisconsin/75238868/

I would think Canada and North Dakota would be much closer for most of the upper half of your state though, would it not?

The Missouri river runs through both N Dakota and S Dakota with Mule deer ranging east east to the river valley. I believe if you were to draw a line due north thru Pierre and Bismark you would be pretty close to the normal range in Canada. The ones I can remember were from counties between Big Stone Lake and Fargo ND and east to I94.
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#6033022 - 11/16/15 03:38 PM Re: hard to believe [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Any chance is was a Sika doe, they have similar color and white rump patch along with the bouncing run as Mule Deer, just not the huge ears.


Wow, I don't think I've ever seen one so I looked it up. They do have similar colorations.



That could be a possibility, but it definitely wasn't that dark, it was a very light gray. And the ears weren't that small, can those breed with a whitetail?

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