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#6031077 - 11/15/15 05:49 PM Good youth deer rifle
spudmonkey Offline
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Registered: 01/26/08
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Loc: McKinney, Texas
Hi all, need opinions. My son is 10 and I'm looking to get him a solid youth deer rifle that he can grow with. I'm assuming that .308 or 30-06 is too over powered.

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#6031104 - 11/15/15 06:07 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
bo323 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/11
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Loc: Snyder, tx
243
6.5 grendel
6.5 Creedmoor
260
6.8 spc
7mm08
25.06
300 Bo

Any of those. Just pick a flavor you like.


Edited by bo323 (11/15/15 06:08 PM)

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#6031233 - 11/15/15 07:04 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
spudmonkey Offline
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Loc: McKinney, Texas
Cool beans! thank you

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#6031286 - 11/15/15 07:24 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
Poke81 Offline
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Registered: 09/22/13
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Loc: Granbury TX
AR15 you will be able to fit to him.

6.8 in the AR15 platform

Depending on your setup you may be able to run up to an AR-10.

243, 6.5 Creed, 7mm-08

The advantage of the AR platform is fitting it to him. I would rather put my daughter (9) on a bolt gun but she is built funny I guess. Even the Ruger scout I have which has the shortest LOP of any factory stick I found is too long.

You have to remember about going too big. He will develop a flinch and people who flinch miss a lot. Get him something he can shoot comfortably and you won't have any issues.

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#6031326 - 11/15/15 07:37 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: Poke81]
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Registered: 05/26/13
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Loc: Iowa
If your terrain keeps you limited to 200 yards and under, get him a 30-30 lever rifle. Teach him how to use iron sights, how to estimate range, and show him where his rifle shoots at various ranges. He will get a different rifle for coyotes, elk, and whatever else, but I bet he keeps coming back to that rifle a lot for venison.

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#6031481 - 11/15/15 08:29 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
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Loc: Katy, TX
243/7mm-08.
Weatherby Vanguard youth.
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#6031495 - 11/15/15 08:34 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: bo323]
FiremanJG Offline
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Registered: 12/16/08
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Loc: Wolfe City, TX
Originally Posted By: bo323

243
6.5 grendel
6.5 Creedmoor
260
6.8 spc
7mm08
300 Bo
.308 Win

Any of those. Just pick a flavor you like.


+1

Add the 30-30 lever action to the list.


Edited by FiremanJG (11/15/15 08:35 PM)
Edit Reason: modified the list
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#6031529 - 11/15/15 08:44 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: FiremanJG]
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Add the 30-30 lever action to the list. [/quote]

I won a Cabela's gift card in a raffle last year and used it to get my son a Savage Model 11 youth .243. With 100 grain bullets it kicks quite a bit more than my Marlin 336 shooting 150 grain. Still a mild rifle, but it definitely jumps more than the 30-30.

I assumed for a youth gun it would be softer-I would look for an older youth Marlin.

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#6031568 - 11/15/15 08:59 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
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I disagree with the 30-30 other than it short length of pull. So many better choices imo

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#6031667 - 11/15/15 09:44 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: FiremanJG]
bo323 Offline
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Registered: 09/24/11
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Loc: Snyder, tx
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: bo323

243
6.5 grendel
6.5 Creedmoor
260
6.8 spc
7mm08
300 Bo
.308 Win

Any of those. Just pick a flavor you like.


+1

Add the 30-30 lever action to the list.


I don't know how I left that one out. It was my first deer rifle.

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#6031669 - 11/15/15 09:45 PM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
Revoman Offline
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Registered: 01/14/11
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Loc: Abilene Texas
One must not over look the 257 Roberts or 6mm Remington. I'm a big fan of the 257, what I started hunting with. Have a barrel ready to put on an action for Kayla in the Roberts.
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#6031812 - 11/16/15 12:03 AM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
bigjoe8565 Offline
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Loc: Mesquite, Tx
My vote goes for the .243. Ammo is plentiful, cheap and recoil is very managable.

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#6031838 - 11/16/15 05:16 AM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
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Registered: 03/17/09
Posts: 441
Loc: Mesquite, Texas
I still think recoil is a matter of psych more than physical for shooters. Id think length of pull and weight would play more into selecting rifle for any youth or smaller framed women or man even.

So that said calibers from . yes .243 with premium round, any 6.5(Swede,Grendel,Creedmore etc..), 7x57 or 7-08, .30-30 -w- Leverloution ammo, and finally why not a versatile .308 win!
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#6031923 - 11/16/15 07:14 AM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
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Posts: 1078
Loc: Cuero
Over the last decade my place has seen more than it's fair share of youth hunters and based on that experience, the last several years I require that a .240 caliber or greater bullet be used. A magnet must not stick to the bullet and it must have an exposed lead core. This is based on the experience of what it takes not to loose a deer shot by an inexperienced hunter.

There are kids that want to use their ARs chambered in 223 but 90% of the time it ends bad. A kid going on a youth hunt typically does not have the patience or skill in placing the shot that this cartridge requires. The few times I've made an exception based on the parents argument of their kid's skill has ended bad. I don't have a problem with the cartridge or those like it when used with adults, I've used it and 222 Rem very successfully.

Ten years ago, I was anti 7.62x39, but open minded providing the bullet met the construction requirements. Boy was I wrong about it. It is an extremely effective hunter. It is probably the most common cartridge that a kid shows up with that and not just in the SKS. I see a lot of Mini-Mausers and CZs. The kids actually sold me, I own three hunting rifles chambered in the cartridge a decade later.

Second most popular cartridge has been the 30-30 Win. Those that haven't used it deny its effectiveness but it remains a killer of whitetails.

Third most popular is the 243 Win. When a kid shows up with their dad's long action, they usually don't shoot well at the range and have a flinching problem. If allowed, I move them to the Mini-Mauser 7.62x39 and can get them over the issue.

I also have a couple of leverguns that I make available, 357 Mag & 30-30 Win, and I've had kids that want to shoot them. I given them plenty of ammo to get settled in and they always do good.

My grandsons are too young yet but have Mini-Mauser's chambered in 7.62x39.

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#6032127 - 11/16/15 09:00 AM Re: Good youth deer rifle [Re: spudmonkey]
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Registered: 03/19/09
Posts: 4167
Having guided youth hunts for years I have to throw in my opinion that good deer rifle calibers for kids and small framed women also depend on the size of the deer you will be shooting as well as the ranges you are shooting them at.....for first timers and kids I like to stay well within 100yds.

By far the .243 is the most common rifle that kids show up with and to be honest I am NOT a fan of it; we routinely see doe that are 150lbs+ and bucks are often 200+ and even on the smaller bodied bucks in the 160lbs we still have issues with the bullets not passing through and leaving poor or no blood trail at all.

I will say that the kids I guide usually make good shots; and when we clean the deer I look and have recovered several quality bonded bullets with perfect mushrooms inside these deer. The bullets did the job and the deer is dead but it can be a stressful situation if the shot is marginal and your trying to find a blood trail of a wounded animal while dealing with an excited kid.

That's why I say the .243 is more of an experts gun than a beginners; I believe that recoil is mostly in the mind, gun fit and proper shooting technique.

I think its always best to start a kid with a bolt action .22 that's as close to the rifle they will hunt with; that's why I own a Ruger M77 MKII stainless .22lr with a 3-9x40 Leupold as well as a Ruger M77 MkII stainless .270win with a 3-10x40 Leupold.

If a kid comes into camp and their gun doesn't work or other issue comes up I start them on my .22 then get them shooting my .270win.....and if I can have 2-3 hours good range time with a good kid;I have never had a problem with them using my .270 and being VERY effective with it.

In a couple of years I will be buying a couple of rifles for my nephews to hunt with and they will be the following.......

1. good quality bolt action rifle with quality 3-9x40 scope
2. Pick up a youth stock off ebay or gunbroker - They are cheap and readily available
3. let the kid decorate/paint the youth stock however he/she wants to. (put the full size stock back in the closet to switch out as they grow up)

The rifle will be in one of the following

7mm-08
257 Roberts
25-06
308 - you can start with light loads if you need to, then go to full power ammo buy the time their 13yo

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