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#6030479 - 11/15/15 10:47 AM AR-15 or other choices?
EddieWalker Offline
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Registered: 08/06/14
Posts: 1175
Loc: Tyler, TX
My wife has decided that we need something better then our shotguns, deer rifles and pistols for home defense. I don't know what she expects to happen, but it sounds like a great Christmas gift for her if I can figure out what to buy.

I was in the Marines and have some experience with the M16a2, mini14 and the uzi. I'm not set on a caliber, but she is only 130 pounds and would prefer something with as little kick as possible.

I see sales and dozens of different brands out there, but don't know who makes quality.

I've read through some of the posts on here that link to dozens of youtube videos, and reviews, but my head begins to swim and I lose interest.

I'm hoping that some of you with experience and knowledge about this would just point me in the right direction of what to buy off the shelf that does not require a lot of modifications or replacing existing parts. In all honesty, it will probably get used a fair amount right away, but then sit in the safe for months at a time and only come out once or twice a year.

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#6030516 - 11/15/15 11:08 AM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
QuitShootinYoungBucks Offline
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Registered: 11/01/12
Posts: 6491
Loc: Lubbock, TX
If you've got shotguns and pistols you should be set-both are better options in close quarters. If the shotguns are unwieldy you could buy a shorter barrel to use when you aren't hunting. If you want an AR, given your description of use I'd go with an S&W M&P Sport, Ruger AR 5.56, or Del Ton, all of which are available pretty cheap right now
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#6030573 - 11/15/15 11:47 AM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
Cleric Offline
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Registered: 03/11/12
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9mm ar sbr with a can

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#6030594 - 11/15/15 12:02 PM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
Jkd106 Offline
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Registered: 08/20/13
Posts: 1014
Loc: Fannin and Hall
I just bought my first AR-15 223, dont know why I waited so long. It is cheap and fun to shoot, and very easy to maneuver. It has very little recoil, and she will love to shoot it. Adjustable stock makes it fit any one down to a young child. Just my opinion.
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#6031245 - 11/15/15 07:08 PM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
Bigfoot Offline
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Registered: 08/06/14
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Loc: Galveston Bay
Sounds like a nice AR pistol may be in store for you if it is home defense. Or some type of 9mm carbine from Kel TEC or others that I have seen on TV
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#6031296 - 11/15/15 07:29 PM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: Bigfoot]
BushFamilyNine Offline
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Registered: 05/26/13
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Loc: Iowa
Weight of the person usually has very little to do with selecting weapon for home defense. Rather, look at the arm and hand strength. Some pistols and shotguns are very hard to operate with weak hands. If you wife is comfortable with weapons you have at home, consider that a start. Instead of buying a new firearm, invest that money into some defense courses. Memory function with a weapon you already own, plus some training time, will greatly help a person when it comes to an unexpected confrontation in the home. 2cents

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#6031471 - 11/15/15 08:25 PM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
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Registered: 07/26/08
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Loc: White Settlement, TX.
Short barrel shotgun. Can't be beat.
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#6031829 - 11/16/15 02:38 AM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
Toxarch Offline
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Registered: 03/09/11
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Loc: Parker County
Got neighbors? Fast bullets go through walls. In my opinion, a rifle isn't the best choice for home defense unless you are shooting them at the road. Just my opinion and I do own several ARs.
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#6031987 - 11/16/15 07:54 AM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
TexasVine Offline
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Registered: 10/20/08
Posts: 2034
Loc: Lakeway/Fredericksburg
As a couple stated, I believe handguns are better than rifles for self defense in close quarters. The Ar-15 introduces more challenges in a spur of the second-high stress situation in tight areas.
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#6032050 - 11/16/15 08:24 AM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
EddieWalker Offline
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Thank you for all the advice. As of right now, this is the one that I'm leaning towards, but will still be looking for another month or so. I think this, or something similar, will be her Christmas gift this year.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/firearms/centerfire-rifles/semiautomatic-centerfire-rifles%7C/pc/104792580/c/553829580/sc/105522480/i/105524280/bushmaster-174-qrc-quick-response-carbine-semiautomatic-tactical-rifle-with-mini-red-dot/2041410.uts?destination=/catalog/browse/semiautomatic-centerfire-rifles/_/N-1114861/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_105524280&avad=55963_b9e680da&WT.mc_id=al41227&Subid1=SID&subacctid=41227&subacctname=41227&adname=Custom+Link&adtype=cl&adid=NA&rid=12&WT.tsrc=AFF

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#6032389 - 11/16/15 10:38 AM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
cp50948 Offline
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Registered: 10/26/11
Posts: 182
Loc: Erath,Panhandle
Eddie Walker I am currently looking a the same rifle from Bushmaster. Did some research on bushmaster, apparently the quality of their rifles and customer service has dropped in recent years. I think I'm going with Ruger AR556 or Windham Weaponry. The only thing bad about Ruger AR 556 I've found is that the front sight gas block is a pain in the @$$ to change out with low profile for optics.

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#6032411 - 11/16/15 10:48 AM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
bull279 Offline
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Registered: 09/08/15
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Loc: Central Texas
If you do get an AR for home defense, I HIGHLY recommend that you use frangible ammunition. The .223 or 5.56 ammo is going to go through multiple walls before it stops. It would be a shame to have a break in and accidentally kill a family member or neighbor (if they are close by) by shooting through a wall.
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#6032833 - 11/16/15 02:04 PM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
EddieWalker Offline
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Loc: Tyler, TX
My home is 800 feet off the road and my closest neighbor is a mile away, on the other side of a hill, through some very thick pines.

Thanks for the info on the Bushmaster. I've just been looking online and trying to decide who makes what, and what do they have that I want. There are so many options, this is like buying a new TV

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#6033421 - 11/16/15 06:38 PM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
BassCat'99 Offline
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Registered: 02/15/13
Posts: 921
Loc: Stratford Texas
I have an Anderson and a Palmetto State, both are fine. The rest are custom builds but in your case you know how to handle one, just get one that is reliable.
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#6033499 - 11/16/15 07:08 PM Re: AR-15 or other choices? [Re: EddieWalker]
Chris42 Offline
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Registered: 11/22/11
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Some of yall hsould see the truth about guns regarding an AR shooting through walls.

If it was me, I'd get a shorter (16 or 14.5 pinned) with lightweight barrel. Magpul handguards, plus a sling and light and you are good to go.

Rifel is better than pistol or shotguns. The only other thing I would consider orther than AR would be either an AUG or Tavor simply because they are shorter without SBRing the rifle.

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