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#6022594 - 11/10/15 10:54 PM Hunting with the Berger hybrid?
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anyone tried the hybrids for hunting rounds?
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#6022620 - 11/10/15 11:16 PM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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Haven't tried the hybrids on game yet, have used the target bullets on hogs with good success and really liked the results as good or better than what I have experienced with the VLD hunting bullets. Have some hybrids loaded up for the Grendel and will try them on hogs if I get the chance.
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#6022660 - 11/11/15 01:21 AM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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105gr in 6mm did not do to well for me on a couple of does I shot small entrance small exit both ran a ways but were recovered
Now the 168gr Classic 7mm has been very good from my .280 on elk
I have some 215gr Hybrids to try in the 300 win but no data yet

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#6023071 - 11/11/15 09:16 AM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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I've heard mixed reviews on the 105's...either like DStroud says or wburke has used them and said they do great?
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#6023140 - 11/11/15 09:38 AM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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The hybrids are a target bullet. The target bullets have a thicker jacket on them, which will make them harder to expand and open up. I've talked to friends and customers who have taken animals with the hybrids, and shots have been fine. Berger does not recommend them on game, but they will work. When you slow them down, they will have a more difficult time to open up.
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#6023191 - 11/11/15 09:57 AM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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FWIW

I shot and axis doe and a nice 8pt whitetail last weekend (pic's coming) with my 6.5 Weatherby, 140 VLD Hunting bullets, both were shot at about 75 yards . Oxymoron...6.5 Weatherby at short range. Anyway, they both ran about 20 yards and croaked. Upon further review, neither bullet exited . Both shots were at different angles, not straight broadside. I didn't do an autopsy, bullets seemed to expend all energy in the animal made them very dead!!!
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#6023215 - 11/11/15 10:11 AM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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The 105s are what I plan on running in a 6mm Creedmoor. I've got 500 of them and was hoping to use for both target and hunting. On these thicker jacket bullets would shoulder shots on game help promote some expansion?
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#6023331 - 11/11/15 11:15 AM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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Guy I ask at Berger said the hybrids should be fine on shoulder shots. I like high shoulder shots so may try them on a game. Hogs are not cooperating for bullet testing
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#6023378 - 11/11/15 11:31 AM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: kmon1]
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Originally Posted By: kmon1
Hogs are not cooperating for bullet testing


I hear you on that!!!
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#6023532 - 11/11/15 12:42 PM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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what's up with the hogs? have the all been eradicated?
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#6023661 - 11/11/15 01:35 PM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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I use the hybrid for hunting but only in my ultra mag so far. I do not know how they do up close, but everything Ive shot has dropped without taking a step. The closest animal I have shot with them was a mule deer buck last year at 475 yards, and the bullet exploded inside the deer.


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#6023704 - 11/11/15 02:02 PM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
what's up with the hogs? have the all been eradicated?


They are getting smarter...y'all are edumacating them grin
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#6024111 - 11/11/15 05:57 PM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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On the 105' s I was shooting them from a 6mm Creedmoor at about 3075fps and these shots were out there 400 yards give or take. They maybe fine at closer ranges where the velocity is high but I would be wary at longer ranges when speed has dropped off. When you think about it you run the high BC to possibly shoot farther out but it may not be best bullet for game. AMax maybe .....have not tried that particular AMax on game although they shoot great from my gun.


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#6024149 - 11/11/15 06:20 PM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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I can say the bigger caliber Hybrids are very effective on hogs. I shoot the 7mm 180 gr. at 3097 f.p.s. and they have no problem from inside 100 yards to just beyond 700 yards. That is a spread in impact velocity from 2960 f.p.s. to around 2200 f.p.s.. Only once has the Hybrid been a complete pass through and it left a small entrance and just slightly larger exit wound. The pig still balled up within 20 yards and the bullet seemed to hit just a couple of ribs.

That being said, the Hybrid is a target bullet and wasn't design to perform on game animals. It's main purpose is to give the shooter a very high BC bullet for a given caliber and weight that is less sensitive to seating depth than the VLDs.

I think the results I've personally seen with it are due to being able to push a very high BC bullet at a pretty respectable velocity. In my .243 and 6.5x47 I stick with the VLD for that very reason.
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#6024315 - 11/11/15 07:27 PM Re: Hunting with the Berger hybrid? [Re: P & Y]
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On another forum with a lot more hunters up north the hybrid version have more negative reviews than positive for performance.

In my 6mm I stuck with regular vld

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