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#6014609 - 11/06/15 11:51 AM Approached by LO next to public land
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Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 154
Loc: Sugar Land, TX
Wanted to get others opinion regarding hunting public land that is adjacent to landowner. I was getting ready to enter a public hunting land unit earlier this week to hunt small game, mainly quail. As I was entering the unit I noticed that a landowner drove out his driveway and headed down the road in the opposite direction. A short time later he was driving back towards me and stopped at the road. He wanted to know if I hunted deer and also mentioned he didn't want anybody inteferring with his deer feeder. I assured him I was bird hunting and I am not a deer hunter at all and would steer clear of his deer setup. He was cool with that and drove off. After hunting about 15 min the conversation settled in and it still irks me - as to this is public land and he can't direct me where to hunt. I walked back further afield and saw that his stand and feeder are on his property behind his house. The feeder is setup right at the fenceline to public land and about 75-100 yards from his house. I steered clear of the area as I promised, but what do you all think about the situation. What would you do? or anyway experience something similar? The encounter still bothers me, but in the end I kept the peace by not challenging his comments.

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#6014626 - 11/06/15 11:59 AM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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I would find the trails that the deer use going from public land to his feeder and hunt about 150 yards from the property line and take myself a nice buck that is hanging around checking out the doe that are headed to the feeder.
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#6014650 - 11/06/15 12:09 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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If he was pleasant and said 'please' I would let it slide. Then I would pull a Booner1 on him.
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#6014683 - 11/06/15 12:30 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Treat him the same way you would want to be treated. cheers

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#6014823 - 11/06/15 01:46 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 154
Loc: Sugar Land, TX
I don't remember a 'please.' Later in the day I did scare up a bedding deer - which was one of the biggest deer I have seen in a long while - at least an 8 pt. Gives me some new hunting ideas for next year....

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#6014886 - 11/06/15 02:21 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Was on WMA during squirrel-hog season... Archery hunts was seeing hogs in a certain area just not in range... Plan- walk down ATV trail past area then cut inta woods & ease threw looking for movement... Wasn't too far from truck when noticed orange movement ta right... Husband, wife & kids... Eased twards them... Before could say anything, the man, stated my .22 mag was illegal... Tried explaining, rimfire, shotgun, & mussleloader were all legal... He said no rimfire... Trying ta keep open mind... He does have wife & kids, & he doesn't know me... Explained that had seen hogs several hundred yards past were they are, & my intentions of walking several hundred yards past that & slowly walking twards were had seen hogs & then cutting back & checking several other areas... Said, might run some your way... He still saying, rimfire not allowed... So checked out few other areas on other side of ATV trails first & saved that stretch for last... flag
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#6015444 - 11/06/15 08:45 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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That is one of the best ways to hunt Public Land. Find feeders on Private land and intercept those deer. My scouting session I had a few days ago was doing that exact thing. We saw a lot of deer on open fields on private land.

That guy has no right to tell you where to hunt as long as it isnt on his property. I can understand how he doesnt like hunters intercepting those deer that he feeds and I would feel the same way about other hunters as he does. But they are not his deer and as long as you are obeying the rules it is fair game.

It is actually kind of rude of him to say such a thing to be honest! You should feel like he disrespected you because he did.
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#6015616 - 11/06/15 11:03 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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I've learned that if I can take something an offensive way, or in a non-offensive way, and I need to think about it to make the decision...

... I'm MUCH better off taking it in the NON defensive way and just letting it go. Wave when you come in. Wave when you leave. Make it a point to talk to him if you see him. Ask him how his season is going. Tell him what you are seeing.

Why? Here's a few reasons that immediately come to mind:

1) Because life is too short and too important to go around getting offended by everything that someone "may" have meant.
2) He could turn out to be one of your best future friends, and all you have to do is be nice. Wouldn't it feel good to make a new friend, and even possibly find a private place to hunt in the future, adjacent to the public land you are already hunting? He may never offer that, even if you are friendly. But I can be almost 100% certain that if you get offended and go off on him, an invite will never happen.

There's more. But you get the point. Let it go. Be nice. If he later shows that he is actually a jerk, well, then you don't need to wonder anymore. But if you are at the crossroads, take the high road. Just my .02

All the best,
Glenn
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#6016286 - 11/07/15 10:31 AM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Well Said CT...Allus catch more flys with honey than vinegar... cheers
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#6016376 - 11/07/15 11:13 AM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Taking the high road is great but the landowner has already taken "the low road" and harassed this hunter because he deemed him to be too close to his land and his personal herd of deer. And was telling the OP not to hunt near his property even though he has every right to do so.

There will be no invitations from this guy. He has already shown himself to be an individual who is greedy and does not respect law abiding public land hunters.

I believe a complaint to the game warden of harassment is not out of the question.







Edited by Bigfoot (11/07/15 11:13 AM)
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#6016720 - 11/07/15 03:39 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: Bigfoot]
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I'm not quite sure how you got that out of the OP's message. He specifically wrote:

"He wanted to know if I hunted deer and also mentioned he didn't want anybody inteferring with his deer feeder. I assured him I was bird hunting and I am not a deer hunter at all and would steer clear of his deer setup. He was cool with that and drove off."

Nowhere in there did I see that he told the OP not to hunt near his property. He just said he didn't want anyone "interfering with his deer feeder". Since his deer feeder is on his land, it sounds to me more like he didn't want someone wandering on his land, thinking it was public property, and hunting over his feeder. Sounds reasonable to me, if that's how it was actually said.

Now if he had said "I don't want you hunting near the fence line because my feeder is close by"... or "I don't want you within (name distance) of my feeder.", I'd be in agreement that he was harassed. But that's not what he supposedly said.

You have every right to feel how you want to feel. I'm not trying to tell you how to feel one way or another. I'm just pointing out that way too many people get their feelings hurt at the slightest interaction with anyone these days, and there is really no need for it. You can determine your own personal feelings, so why not choose to be happy and non-confrontational? These days, you can't tell hardly anyone anything without them taking offense and either wanting to fight, argue, or report you to someone. I'm just tired of it, so I try to go the opposite direction and make as many friends / acquaintances as I can. And even though I've had my handshake denied by some, I still extend it. I've made some good friends, and those who denied the handshake, I had no doubt where I stood with them. Keeps me from having to wonder their intentions. smile

All the best,
Glenn
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#6016941 - 11/07/15 06:31 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Woodsman

Registered: 10/17/13
Posts: 154
Loc: Sugar Land, TX
These are all good points. His approach was poor in my opinion. He stood by his truck and I was across the fence into the land. We were about 15 yards away. He could have walked down to greet me. Nonetheless since I was not hunting deer he was relieved. The question is if I was a deer hunter how that would have gone. Plus I didn't even look like a deer hunter. I was wearing upland vest and pants and carrying a shotgun. No bow and arrow and not draped in camo. Still think the guy was a prick.

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#6016952 - 11/07/15 06:42 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Originally Posted By: ALM TXhunter
Still think the guy was a prick.


Ahh... Now I see. Wish you had voiced that opinion from the start. I have nothing more to add. Good luck this year.
All the best,
Glenn
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#6023496 - 11/11/15 12:29 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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Registered: 04/10/07
Posts: 173
Loc: San Antonio, Texas
Our place is bordered by public hunting land on 2 sides so my opinion is shaded by that. No offense intended to you but that was probably the LO's polite way of saying not to get any ideas about trespassing.

Every year we have hunters either set up right on the fence line (kind of obvious that they were planning to shoot across when they're set up with their muzzle over the fence) jump the fence, ignore the trespassing signs and travel several hundred yards into the property and either hunt one of our feeders or in one case even build a campfire at our camp. Others on the place have had their feeders and cameras manipulated. If i had the money I would high fence those sides, but its caused me to look askance at anyone close to the fence lines. I would like to think that I would've handled it better than the guy you encountered but if you were going in close enough to my driveway that I could see you when I was leaving I probably would've kept an eye on you.

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#6024240 - 11/11/15 06:52 PM Re: Approached by LO next to public land [Re: ALM TXhunter]
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I hunt a lot of public land for various game and have encountered this more than once. Sometimes they are nice about it, sometimes they are not, sometimes not initially, but we part ways on a good note. And a couple times while snipe hunting when they did not understand the game and the season yelled at and had the game warden called. From some of the hunters, non hunters, and trash I have seen I really don't blame them for wanting to keep an eye on who is hunting on the public land nearby and keep an understanding they may have had a bad experience with the last guy hunting over the fence from them. I too have often checked in with an adjacent neighbor to a public hunt access to let that landowner know who I am, what I am driving, what I am doing, and that I will respect their fence. It has more than once led to good hunting intel, a safe place to park, even permission to hunt their land on occasion.
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