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#6014481 - 11/06/15 10:29 AM When to Shoot Does?
Bluemangroup Offline
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Registered: 07/28/13
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I hunt a pasture on the Junco, which is a large South Texas Ranch that is high fenced on the perimeter but has low cross-fencing separating the various pastures. Our deer generally rut between Christmas and the first half of January and we are MLD III status.

My particular pasture is approximately 3000 acres, has high fence on 2 sides and shares a low-fence boundary with 2 other pastures that have been better managed and consequently have more deer than us - of course some of the deer pass between the pastures.

We have large group going down next weekend and I was hoping for input regarding the best time to start shooting doe versus cull bucks. We have 18 buck tags and 20 doe tags. One of my low fence neighbors (who was awarded 1.5X as many tags as me) remarked that he was waiting to shoot his doe until after the rut so that his bucks wouldn't come to my pasture looking for doe. Is there any merit to this?

For the record, I'm not in competition with my neighbor. I have spent considerable time and money managing my pasture for the last three years and want to do what's best for the long term health of the property I hunt.

Thanks in advance...

#6014491 - 11/06/15 10:37 AM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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We struggle with that as well. The boys will go where the girls are, but if you wait to shoot does until post-rut, you are really taking a chance at killing two deer (possibly 3 as frequent as twins are on our place) with one shot. I think the upside to shooting them early is that the boys will have to really get up and walk around to find the girls.

I don't know that there is a 'RIGHT' answer.

#6014492 - 11/06/15 10:37 AM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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I'm on a ranch just to the WSW of you. We share a high-fence boundary with the Lincoln-Nicholson Ranch which shares a boundary fence with the Junco, so we're all pretty much in the same boat as far as rut timing, etc. We're also MLD III and have shot culls and a few does early in the season in years past. However, once the rut kicks in, our does get extremely hard to find as they're constantly being pressured by bucks. Consequently, we've fallen short on our doe harvest the past two seasons.

This year, we've implemented a does only policy until December 1st. After that, if you kill a buck, you must kill at least two does before harvesting another buck. This should accomplish two things. Meeting our doe harvest of 40 and removing does that bucks would otherwise expend energy chasing and breeding during the rut. This should insure better, more dominant bucks do most of the breeding and come out of the winter in better physical condition. In theory, anyway. smile

#6014699 - 11/06/15 12:45 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
QuitShootinYoungBucks Offline
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Registered: 11/01/12
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Loc: Lubbock, TX
I like your plan, fouzman. Good luck! up

#6014707 - 11/06/15 12:50 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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We have also had long conversations about when to take does with people a lot more educated than me on the topic. We were told, if we wanted to take does, to do it BEFORE the rut. So, I will be taking most of my does in the next 2-3 weeks, before Thanksgiving. Our rut is generally the week of or right after Thanksgiving (Breckenridge, TX area).

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#6014750 - 11/06/15 01:08 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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I was taken on a hunt in archery season and was told to take as many does as I wanted and could shoot a buck after I got at least 2 does. Culls and does get hunted before the rut so they can balance the herd and keep good genes in the pool. The less does in the pasture the more competition among the bucks. The rule on does was a young one and an old one to keep age structure pretty even as well. We all took 2 does and a cull so that during rifle season the trophy deer will hopefully be the ones to breed and give us a shot.
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#6014978 - 11/06/15 03:19 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
friocountyhunts Offline

Registered: 12/01/14
Posts: 554
Loc: Frio Town, Texas
I have always hated taking does during the doe/spike season because I was/am always paranoid that Big Boy's girlfriend was harvested along with his genes.

#6014985 - 11/06/15 03:27 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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Chootem early and often cheers

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#6015012 - 11/06/15 03:43 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
Navasot Offline

Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 27689
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
Take um when you can.. don't overthink it

#6015022 - 11/06/15 03:50 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Navasot]
SingleShot85 Offline

Registered: 05/27/09
Posts: 1894
Loc: S.A. and Kinney Co.
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Take um when you can.. don't overthink it

this ^^^^^

#6015123 - 11/06/15 04:59 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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When I see em

#6015129 - 11/06/15 05:02 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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Shoot them as soon in the season as you can. Why wait?

#6015269 - 11/06/15 07:02 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
Revoman Offline
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Registered: 01/14/11
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Loc: Abilene Texas
Take them out now. Why let a buck waste all the energy breeding does and then shoot them?

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#6015271 - 11/06/15 07:03 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
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Registered: 08/04/10
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I would wait till after Thanksgiving to shoot any doe in South Texas. Fawns will be old enough to do okay on there own. I have always waited to shoot does till after the rut on any ranch I have managed. I wait here on mine till Jan. I like to keep the does around as bait during the rut for keeping mature bucks around. I also like to concentrate on any of the bucks that need shot off first. I also think there is a little less fighting by the bucks when the rut is going also when there are more does around. When Jan rolls around I do not waste time and kill the does as quickly as I can. I would shoot cull bucks now and then trophy hunt and then shoot my does. 2cents

#6015320 - 11/06/15 07:35 PM Re: When to Shoot Does? [Re: Bluemangroup]
therock Offline

Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 829
Loc: Southwest TX
Depends on your buck/doe ratio. If way too Many does, shoot early and often. If not, hold off.

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