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#6006842 - 11/02/15 02:58 PM Question for you gun guys...
CRAnderson52 Offline
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Registered: 08/12/11
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Loc: Highland Village, Texas
Not trying to open a can of worms here but I've got some questions for some of you gun guys on here. I've hunted my entire life and I feel I'm pretty proficient with fire arms, but I've always just stuck with basic guns, most of them I use just like I bought them with the exception of maybe a better scope or something easy like that. Recently I've got the itch for an AR, but I have no idea where to start and what's good/bad, uppers/lowers etc etc. How can one get started in the build without getting completely bent over? And how hard is it to make a good little AR for a fairly frugal budget... Let's say $500-$1000?! I'm not talking about anything fancy, just something I can take to the ranch and kill some hogs with and not worry about every time it rubs up against a tree or something like that. What brands do y'all like? Scope, no scope? Lasers or no? Triggers? I'm already confusing myself. Thanks in advance guys!!
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#6006855 - 11/02/15 03:06 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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Registered: 01/24/07
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If you're just looking for a I got this in an email yesterday. Aimsurplus running a deal on these. Radical Arms full rifle with 12" free float rail in either 223/5.56 or 300BLK your choice for only $479. I've never shot one, but I've heard good things about Radical Arms stuff so far and for $479 you won't beat the features for the price.

5.56
300BLK

I run a red dot on my SBR and a 1-4 on my 16" 308 AR for hunting. I've never found a laser that was worth a dang so I don't use them.
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#6006883 - 11/02/15 03:29 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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If it was me, I would go larger than the 223, I have taken hogs down. It was mention on the THF about Radical Arms having the 7.62x39 (30 cal.) $500.00. This would be IMO a better solution for what you are asking. Cheap ammo also.

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#6006901 - 11/02/15 03:40 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: Dalee7892]
KRoyal Online   sleepy
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Originally Posted By: Dalee7892
If it was me, I would go larger than the 223, I have taken hogs down. It was mention on the THF about Radical Arms having the 7.62x39 (30 cal.) $500.00. This would be IMO a better solution for what you are asking. Cheap ammo also.


They do have one, but it was sold out so didn't want to link it. Also there have been intermittent problems with the x39 round and the AR15 platform. I've never had one so I don't know for sure but you can do the research and decide for yourself. x39 is a good hog cartridge and really cheap to play around with.

x39 rifle
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#6007257 - 11/02/15 06:48 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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Do some reading then pick a kit and a stripped lower....put it together for $500-650 and enjoy..

Right now the market is sagging so a complete factory gun can be had for about the same price....but building one is fun and you'll learn a lot more about how it works and how it's put together.
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#6007304 - 11/02/15 07:11 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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If you don't want to build, you can get a S&W M&P 15 Sport for around $500. Basic, no frills carbine. Leaves room in your budget for an optic as well. Ruger and Palmetto State Armory also have inexpensive options.

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#6007348 - 11/02/15 07:30 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
CRAnderson52 Offline
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I'm not opposed to buying one, but the thought of doing my own build sounds fun. But good lord there are about a million things to choose from.
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#6007850 - 11/02/15 11:39 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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DPMS oracle at buds for $500, cmc or rra trigger, Burris my account 1-4 scope. You'll be right at $1000, but you'll have a rifle suited for anything you're looking to do.
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#6008097 - 11/03/15 07:48 AM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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Buy a lower build kit (lower parts kit and stock kit) and a stripped lower. That way you can get the lower you want. Most are functionally the same but why not get a logo you like or color you like? Those are not options with a factory built gun.
Then just pin on a complete upper (I would suggest PSA) in 300BLK. I've built ars from every conceivable scenario and the value in building your own upper from parts is quickly outweighed by the potential for problems including slightly misaligned gas block, mistorqued barrel nut, etc. Sure is nice to be able to rely on a professionally built upper and get the enjoyment out of doing your own lower. Scan www.slickguns.com daily and wait for the deals to pop up.

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#6008714 - 11/03/15 01:22 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
Taddi Offline
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Registered: 09/24/14
Posts: 42
Loc: Aledo,TX
i put together my AR's ( lets face it 99% of people building are just putting the pins in and trigger) just because it was my first gun and I wanted the knowledge that goes along with putting it together( understanding the safety, trigger, etc) with that being said for just a beater hog gun I would suggest just looking for a good value on a gun, S&W's are a great value and a great product as well as Whindam Weaponry. If you plan on upgrading the gun ( trigger, butt stock, pistol grip, etc) put together a lower of parts you want then buy a complete upper.

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#6008790 - 11/03/15 01:56 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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Palmetto State Armory AR kit at $400 is what you desire. Lower is another $40.

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#6008963 - 11/03/15 03:13 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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Registered: 10/13/11
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I'd stay away from the Radical Arms. They are usually way over-gassed just by judging customers coming in and shooting theirs. Our strongest extra power springs can't even get to eject near the 4 o clock position and end up suggesting adjustable gas blocks.
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#6009230 - 11/03/15 05:26 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
CRAnderson52 Offline
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Gonna check out a lot of these, thanks fellas. Now what to do, what to do...
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#6009241 - 11/03/15 05:32 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: cyphertext]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Loc: Frisco, Texas
Originally Posted By: cyphertext
If you don't want to build, you can get a S&W M&P 15 Sport for around $500. Basic, no frills carbine. Leaves room in your budget for an optic as well. Ruger and Palmetto State Armory also have inexpensive options.


This or the Ruger 556. My neighbor just got one, mounted a Leupold VX 2 3-9. shoots .75 groups with factory loads, check it out.
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#6009388 - 11/03/15 06:45 PM Re: Question for you gun guys... [Re: CRAnderson52]
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I have a similar background - I bought a Colt 6920 with magpul furniture then mounted a Leupold Mark AR scope with Firedot reticle. Great rig, and super fun to shoot. Female shooters really like being able to shoot a centerfire rifle with no recoil and the adjustable stock allows them shoot comfortably.

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