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#6006656 - 11/02/15 01:12 PM 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr?
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This is similar to my previous question to you gun nuts.
Along with the mule deer hunt, I have the option to shoot aoudad. Now, if this were ranch aoudad, I'd 64gr their butts. But these are wild aoudad of N. TX (Palo Duro Canyon), so that ain't happenin'. I don't know shot distances, but I won't shoot past 250, and likely to top off at 200yd.

Now my questions is, as the title says, what grain bullet to use? I have 150gr Fusions and TTSXs. At first I figured, okay, I'll up to 180gr Fusions, no problem. Then my dad brought up a good point: it has a higher trajectory. So then I'm confused 'tween 180 and 165/8, because I can't figure it out. We've only really shot 150s out of our rifle anyway, since we've not needed any more. mulie_mike's video from a couple of years back of a huge W. TX bruin getting hit 2-3 times with a 338-06 and still not piling up, at way past 250yd is telling me 180gr. But then the yardage factor tells me 165/8gr. So what should I do!?!?!?!

Also, looking at both the Fusion and the TTSX, I'm really like the first T of the Barnes. The polymer point seems/looks to be advantageous in this situation. What would you say to that?

Thanks for any help.
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#6006674 - 11/02/15 01:24 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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Depends a lot on the twist of the barrel, not just what you're shooting at. Generally with tougher things like elk, you'll want to stick to something like the hornady GMX or the TSX, so you're on the right track.

If you set your rifle an inch high at 100 yards, I wouldn't worry too much about a 250 yard shart with 180 gr bullets.

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#6006692 - 11/02/15 01:34 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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In the great scheme of things a 200 to 250 yard shot isn't a particularly long shot and well within the normal everyday trajectory for the .30-06 with 150, 165 or 180 grain bullets. I have never used the Fusion bullets but to be honest with an aoudad I would not hesitate to use the TTSX in any of those weights as you are going to have pretty good retained velocity out to 250 with all of them.

In the old days with all cup and core bullets I would have stuck with a 180 but these days with the mono-metal bullets I probably would go with the 165 and use if for everything.

My last moose was taken with a .30-06 and 168 grain TTSX. Double lunged and complete pass through at 240 yards. At the hit it jumped and turned in a tight little circle of just a few yards, wobbled and fell over. Aoudad are tough, but not that tough if a good bullet is put in the right place.
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#6006881 - 11/02/15 03:28 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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I shoot the Hornady Customs 165 PSP because they work and perform well in my rifle.

Good luck on your hunt.

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#6006911 - 11/02/15 03:43 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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Push a 208 A-max in it at 2500 fps!! It'll thump em good!

A 180 Accubond or similar would be great medicine. I'm not a Barnes fan, but some are. I like the lead bullets.
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#6006956 - 11/02/15 04:07 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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Whatever grain your rifle shoots best.

I use 165 grain for everything in mine. A bear or bobcat isn't going to know the difference between a few grains.

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#6007161 - 11/02/15 06:07 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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At that range, trajectory isn't an issue. I would go with the 150ttsx if they shoot well in your rifle. Auodad are pretty tough and that barnes is perfect.

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#6007280 - 11/02/15 07:01 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
chital_shikari Offline
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So basically, whatever the rifle likes?

It's only shot 150s, but dad said he'll move up to a 180 if we get enough range time. I think I'll compare boxes of 165/8 with 180 and 150 when I go to the store and figure it out from there.

Thanks a ton, y'all. Really cleared stuff up for me.
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#6007291 - 11/02/15 07:05 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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I'd either look at the 165 or 180, with a nod to the 180. Chad's loading some accubonds right now for my 06. That's a deadly combo!

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#6007299 - 11/02/15 07:09 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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200-250 isn't anything to fret over. 165 or 180 is where I would start. If you are bound by mass produced ammo, the one that shoots the tightest wins.
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#6007315 - 11/02/15 07:15 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
chital_shikari Offline
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Cool, cool. Good stuff, Thanks y'all
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#6007339 - 11/02/15 07:28 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/380133/...d-tip-box-of-20

Saw a huge nilgai drop like a sack a' pataters from 287yd with hart shot with one of these. Thoughts?
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#6007357 - 11/02/15 07:32 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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#6007358 - 11/02/15 07:32 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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Look at Academy, they had a 168gr "hog hammer" ammo by Remington with a Barnes TSX for $20/box.
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#6007661 - 11/02/15 09:29 PM Re: 30-06: 150gr, 165gr, 180gr? [Re: chital_shikari]
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This is what I'm using this season for whitetail: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/194532/...rlock-box-of-20

I've read that on heavier animals the GMX is the way to go: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/911909/...-free-box-of-20


I like hornady a lot and feel like you get a lot for the price, other than that I've had really good luck with plain old 150 gr power-shok softpoints from federal (all federal ammo has been good to me). You can't go wrong with a nosler partition even though it doesn't look as fancy. They get the job done.

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