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#6001628 - 10/30/15 09:24 AM RED WOLF - southeast Texas
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This video was captured by Chester Moore and was taken in an area of southeast Texas where the red wolf was last known to exist. The video was taken about two years ago. Chester has seen four more and has a 5 1/2" track cast from the same area.

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#6001634 - 10/30/15 09:26 AM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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Looks like a big coyote to me, but of course red wolfs and coyotes did mate to make hybrids! Im sure many coyotes have little red wolf dna in them. Think about the only way to find out is shoot and find out. The nearest red wolf still alive in texas is. In the Victoria zoo or wild in North Carolina! We have some big ole coyotes here, those little pigs provide plenty of protein for them!

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#6001642 - 10/30/15 09:32 AM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: huntandfish]
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Originally Posted By: huntandfish
Looks like a big coyote to me!


It's actually a black panther dressed up as a coyote for Halloween.

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#6001644 - 10/30/15 09:33 AM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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Here is a still picture of the same animal.


Article written by Chester Moore -
http://cryptomundo.com/cryptozoologists/red-wolf-like-animals-still-in-texas/
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#6001690 - 10/30/15 10:02 AM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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Looks like one to me. I had heard they released some in Texas around 1990, but don't know if that was just "rumer", or fact. I have heard some of the last remaining wild ones, are somewhere where this video was claimed to be taken.

Here is a great read on the RW.
http://nctc.fws.gov/Pubs4/endangered_red_wolves.pdf
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#6001786 - 10/30/15 11:08 AM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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Lots of yote carry wolf DNA in different regions. Louisiana ran a study a few years back and I was really surprised with how many red wolf DNA carrying yotes they produced.

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#6001815 - 10/30/15 11:22 AM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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it is important for people
to know the physical differences
between the two species. Adult
coyotes weigh about one-half to twothirds
as much as red wolves and
stand approximately 4 inches shorter;
coyotes are much less massive
through the head, chest, legs, and feet.

This is from the document that Western posted. Interesting read.
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#6001951 - 10/30/15 12:25 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: Grosvenor]
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Originally Posted By: Grosvenor
Originally Posted By: huntandfish
Looks like a big coyote to me!


It's actually a black panther dressed up as a coyote for Halloween.


clap rofl
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#6002041 - 10/30/15 01:08 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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I attended a lecture given by Chester Moore three weeks ago in Jefferson, TX and in that lecture, Chester pointed that there is another wolf specie that was thought to also be extinct in Texas, and that is the TEXAS GRAY WOLF - Canis lupus monstrabilis. There have been some possible sightings in Central Texas, which was its area of origin before becoming extinct.

It was a small to medium-sized, relatively pale, plains wolf that fed largely on bison until the bison herds were wiped out and replaced with cattle, whereupon it switched to cattle and was consequently wiped out itself. It's the standard, sordid story.

Ranchers have claimed to have spotted the Texas gray and also state that its howl is very distinctive from a coyote.
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#6002069 - 10/30/15 01:26 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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jdickey, I have heard that as well. I heard that even back in the early 90's while living in Erath Co. I suppose it's possible.
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#6002073 - 10/30/15 01:29 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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Very kool to think some may still be around...
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#6002075 - 10/30/15 01:31 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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Looks like a red wolf to me. They do have a captive breeding program at "Fossil rim", west of Glen rose.
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#6002083 - 10/30/15 01:33 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: Erathkid]
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Originally Posted By: Erathkid
Looks like a red wolf to me. They do have a captive breeding program at "Fossil rim", west of Glen rose.


OH yeah, forgot about them up Been awhile since I have been there, but they dabble in many of those "things", neat place to drive through.
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#6002106 - 10/30/15 01:45 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: jdickey]
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Originally Posted By: jdickey
I attended a lecture given by Chester Moore three weeks ago in Jefferson, TX and in that lecture, Chester pointed that there is another wolf specie that was thought to also be extinct in Texas, and that is the TEXAS GRAY WOLF - Canis lupus monstrabilis. There have been some possible sightings in Central Texas, which was its area of origin before becoming extinct.

It was a small to medium-sized, relatively pale, plains wolf that fed largely on bison until the bison herds were wiped out and replaced with cattle, whereupon it switched to cattle and was consequently wiped out itself. It's the standard, sordid story.

Ranchers have claimed to have spotted the Texas gray and also state that its howl is very distinctive from a coyote.


How could you stand to sit through a lecture by Chester Moore? He wears me out just trying to read one of his articles. Texas Fish & Game Magazine, must of been hard up to find an editor when they picked him.

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#6002209 - 10/30/15 03:01 PM Re: RED WOLF - southeast Texas [Re: TruTexican]
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Originally Posted By: TruTexican
it is important for people
to know the physical differences
between the two species. Adult
coyotes weigh about one-half to twothirds
as much as red wolves and
stand approximately 4 inches shorter;
coyotes are much less massive
through the head, chest, legs, and feet.

This is from the document that Western posted. Interesting read.


Perhaps the key difference with these smaller wolves is the larger and more muscular body that make the legs appear shorter than what you see with a coyote.

The key giveaways are the head and ears. Wolves carry a larger and more threatening nose and mouth, shorter ears, all of which is visible in the photo.

Thanks for sharing.
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