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#6000877 - 10/29/15 06:35 PM Jack O Conner
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Anyone else a Jack O Conner fan? I just finished up his book "The Art Of Hunting Big Game In North America." Great reading.


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#6000886 - 10/29/15 06:40 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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Bigger fan of the B52, jacks cool but not B52 coolcheers

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#6001051 - 10/29/15 08:55 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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I was always in the other camp...



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#6001078 - 10/29/15 09:15 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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ILY Jack O'Connor

Simply put
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#6001087 - 10/29/15 09:20 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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Big fan of O'Conner. Read all his stuff in Outdoor life and have all of his books.
He started me on the path to Winchester Mod 70's (Pre-64) and the .270.
For an English perfesser' he had some unusual comments that were not exactly "by the book".

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#6001296 - 10/29/15 11:23 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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I'm a fan but I try to keep things in context. He was a fan of the 270 because, during his formative hunting years, the most reliable expanding bullet, was the 130 grain Western Cartidge load for it. Jack would acknowledge the usefulness of other cartridges but stayed in love with the 270.
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#6001366 - 10/30/15 05:29 AM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: nsmike]
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O'Connor's still the best, even after all these years, and even if you dislike the .270. The OP should find and read The Rifle Book, Sheep and Sheep Hunting, and Game in the Desert Revisited.

Wayne van Zwoll and John Barsness are very readable nowadays, and Larry Weishuhn can write a great story when he puts his mind to it. Craig Boddington has to be mentioned for his huge output, if nothing else.

I'm currently reading Barsness' new book, The Big Book of Gun Gack, which can be purchased directly from John through his website, www.riflesandrecipes.com. He'll even sign it for you. The book is essentially a 21st Century update of Bob Hagel's classic, Handloading and Practical Ballistics for the American Hunter.

But no one holds a candle to Jack for pure entertainment and readability.
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#6001376 - 10/30/15 05:48 AM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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O'Connor is wonderful to read. I've read all his stuff - most multiple times.

Yes, he was a huge fan of the .270. But the corollary that has become accepted as fact - that he disliked and/or talked down other calibers (most notably, the .30-06) is simply a myth. Like many in the 20s and 30s, he did much of his early hunting with a Springfield in .30-06. He was a realist - and he knew the basic ballistics of each caliber and the relative differences of each. Thus, he knew the mid-level calibers all performed within a relatively close range. And his writing reflected that.
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That's the way I hunt don't know many that do. If a deer gets buy me I will try to run him down. Ive killed a bunch that way.



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#6001624 - 10/30/15 09:23 AM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: 505ed]
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Originally Posted By: 505ed
I was always in the other camp...



Ed



you and Elmer Keith can GTFO
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I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6001643 - 10/30/15 09:32 AM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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I love O'Conner for his writings because they are rooted in experience and common sense.

he hunted a lot, and grew up in an era that was before high magnification variable scopes, Ballistic coefficencies, long range setups, etc.

he's the reason I became and stayed a .270 fan(although mine is a ruger not a Winchester) and his advice has never steered me wrong.



I'm also a fan of Jim Carmichael and Craig Boddington. they bring a certain gentlemanly aspect to the sport of hunting that has been lost with the advent of the "aww shucks" bubba army of T.V hunters we have today

David Petzel cracks me up with his witty responses.
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I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6001671 - 10/30/15 09:48 AM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: 505ed
I was always in the other camp...



Ed



you and Elmer Keith can GTFO
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: 505ed
I was always in the other camp...



Ed



you and Elmer Keith can GTFO


Thank you for being rude...this forum is entertainment for me, and a way I can express my opinion and try to gain a little knowledge from time to Time from other guys that are enthusiasts .In my 39 years I have been very fortunate. I have been on quite a few international hunts, 5 African safaris, and hunted most of North America (other than polar bear, and wild sheep...which I intend to if I can get drawn).. I have collected firearms since I was old enough to hold them. I have owned Hollands, Remingtons, Winchesters, Blasers and everything in between. I like to share stuff, and learn,And I get a go F&$k off. Well sir, I will. I have met people on forums that talk big, and when you find out--some of them are just hot air--I imagine this applies to you...

Ed

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#6001782 - 10/30/15 11:04 AM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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Petzal is an opinionated sonofagun. He's "old school". I like him.
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Originally Posted By: REALKILLER
That's the way I hunt don't know many that do. If a deer gets buy me I will try to run him down. Ive killed a bunch that way.



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#6001912 - 10/30/15 12:09 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: 505ed]
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Originally Posted By: 505ed
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: 505ed
I was always in the other camp...



Ed



you and Elmer Keith can GTFO
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: 505ed
I was always in the other camp...



Ed



you and Elmer Keith can GTFO


Thank you for being rude...this forum is entertainment for me, and a way I can express my opinion and try to gain a little knowledge from time to Time from other guys that are enthusiasts .In my 39 years I have been very fortunate. I have been on quite a few international hunts, 5 African safaris, and hunted most of North America (other than polar bear, and wild sheep...which I intend to if I can get drawn).. I have collected firearms since I was old enough to hold them. I have owned Hollands, Remingtons, Winchesters, Blasers and everything in between. I like to share stuff, and learn,And I get a go F&$k off. Well sir, I will. I have met people on forums that talk big, and when you find out--some of them are just hot air--I imagine this applies to you...

Ed


Good lord man it was a joke! Would hate to see how you react when someone dogs your favorite sports team?

And what does your international adventures or your collection of high end rifles have to do with jack o'connor and Elmer keith?
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I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6001915 - 10/30/15 12:10 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: jae011]
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"Hell, He Was There!"

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Originally Posted By: REALKILLER
That's the way I hunt don't know many that do. If a deer gets buy me I will try to run him down. Ive killed a bunch that way.



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#6001921 - 10/30/15 12:11 PM Re: Jack O Conner [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Petzal is an opinionated sonofagun. He's "old school". I like him.


He has a unique writing style. Outdoor writers in the past decade have become a lot less formal in their articles and field and stream is a front runner. Petersons hunting and mike schoby is another I enjoy
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