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#5995281 - 10/26/15 03:10 PM Training with dead ducks?
BradyBuck Offline
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Was wanting to go do some training with frozen ducks but then thought...... "I'm going to be out there with real ducks and a gun out of season."

So I know people use real ducks but what is the law about this?

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#5995307 - 10/26/15 03:28 PM Re: Training with dead ducks? [Re: BradyBuck]
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I've used frozen quail. I let them thaw a little. They worked fine for me.

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#5995332 - 10/26/15 03:49 PM Re: Training with dead ducks? [Re: BradyBuck]
triggerbowtx Offline
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I don't think the frozen part was his concern. I think he was concerned about someone thinking that he was hunting out of season. I think you would be fine, assuming you're on private land and not taking a shotgun to the neighborhood park. I frozen duck (even thawed) is very evident that it didn't die that day. I wouldn't think a game warden would give you trouble. It would be very clear that you weren't hunting. At least to me it would.

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#5995484 - 10/26/15 05:27 PM Re: Training with dead ducks? [Re: BradyBuck]
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If they were wild you could be written up for "wanton waste". We use pen raised birds which have a dew claw cut off. Some people will breast the wild ones then tape them back up.

Robby


Edited by Birdhunter61 (10/26/15 05:29 PM)

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#5995523 - 10/26/15 05:59 PM Re: Training with dead ducks? [Re: BradyBuck]
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I've never used whole ducks. Just wings zip tied to bumpers. Dogs never had an issue making the transition. Except that for a while big ducks were a large load to retrieve but as the dog grew it worked out.
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#5995732 - 10/26/15 08:01 PM Re: Training with dead ducks? [Re: Birdhunter61]
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Originally Posted By: Birdhunter61
If they were wild you could be written up for "wanton waste". We use pen raised birds which have a dew claw cut off. Some people will breast the wild ones then tape them back up.

Robby


Absolutely correct. I only use pigeons for puppies and pen raised ducks for big dogs.
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#5995807 - 10/26/15 08:38 PM Re: Training with dead ducks? [Re: BradyBuck]
BradyBuck Offline
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Thanks, i wasn't worried about it being frozen but just the legality of using wild ducks to train with. As stated above I guess I could be written up for "wanton waste".

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#5997624 - 10/27/15 07:55 PM Re: Training with dead ducks? [Re: BradyBuck]
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I've used frozen birds before. I just bring the tag with me. You could also make a fake gun to use. I've used a broom stick.
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