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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 07:32 PM
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tShawnB
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I feel for these folks, but I also agree that they should be standing up for what is right in their own country. They come over here and start preaching the same exact politics that got them where they're at in their own country, just mind boggling. Also, we do indeed need these folks, so instead of these folks paying thousands of dollars to come here illegally, why don't we come up with an easy, efficient system and charge them thousands of dollars to come in legally? Finally, I am not sure The Donald is the man for the job, but he is correct in that at the end of the day in order to make all of this right you are A) going to have to put a stop to all illegal immigration at the border, and B)start deportations. Once you do these two things and only then can you set up a fair, quick and easy system of allowing these immigrants into the country. As for right now and how to stop this as it pertains to this thread, well, I am not an immoral enough of a human being to do what is necessary unless mine or my loved ones life is in danger, so there's that.
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How come everybody I meet is a deer hunting expert?
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 07:39 PM
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SouthTXhunter07
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It's just a creepy feeling now out there walking to the stands. I use to think of it as a place for clearing my mind and almost like therapy, but now I'm on my toes with my hand on my pistol as I walk thru my heavy brush country to and from my blinds. really sucks to have to feel that way about your own "getaway" place.
We have a very old house on the property that is almost falling down, I walked in a couple weeks ago and on the walls was an entire map of our whole 6,000 acres! I mean they drew the place out better than I could and we have owned it for generations! CREEPY!
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 07:41 PM
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I hunt in rocksprings. Was down there this past weekend actually bow hunting. How bad has it gotten with the illegals? Anyone have any evidence of this. We also leave our place unlocked, and I agree and would recommend that anyone do that who hunts where there are illegals. We didn't do that once and had our camper broke into, then had to haul it all the way home to get the window fixed. It's not worth it. Just leave it unlocked.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 08:21 PM
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LarryCopper
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I've never hunted down there but that would definitely give me the creeps. Does remind me of a pretty good story tho...
Not long after I got out of high school, around '89 my mom followed a job to southern California. My brother and I went out there one summer to visit with her and went out to find a watering hole. At least at that time it was a lot harder to find than you might think. Finally found a bar - yes we kind of stood out and didn't care. Started talking to some locals and they started asking us all about TX. They asked us if we had the same immigrant problem like they have.
So... I decided to jack with them and my brother played right along. I told them that in TX if you hunt along the border you get special tags with your license. If you see them on your property you were to shoot them, put the tag on their toe, and hang them up along the river. Every day or two immigration comes along and picks them up.
They believed us. Hell they thought everyone here rides horses to work. No telling how many people they told that "fact about TX".
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/21/15 08:57 PM
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MarkE
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Looks like he may be taking a poop and trying to figure out if that camera is worth taking....
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 09:23 PM
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Kin folk used to manage a place between Dilly and Cotulla 10,000 acres. The hunting cabin got broke into many, many times. Somebody told him to put Halloween stuff in the windows and on the cabin, witches, skeletons etc. They say most of em are real religious and believe in demons and the place must not be entered. All they would take is the water jugs and the big can of beans they would leave out.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 09:36 PM
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SouthTXhunter07
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ya our ranch house in Pearsall some how mysteriously burned to the ground 2 summers ago. so many generations and memories burnt with the house. Sucks. I blame it on illegals leaving the gas stove on while cooking.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 10:06 PM
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It always amazes me what people get use to, then one day "poof" it becomes acceptable behavior.
Lucky 7 Exotic Ranch located in Eden, Tx. Well managed self sustaining herds roaming our 3,000 acre ranch. First Class Lodging, Ranch style meals and qualified guides. 30+ species.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 10:13 PM
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tlk
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we hunt near the border and have for 8 years - we had some traffic but as soon as the fence went up it all stopped - no issues in camp and have not seen them on the ranch - maybe there is something to Trump's idea
You can't fix stupid
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 10:13 PM
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stxranchman
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Years ago it seemed they would run and hide if you spotted them. Now days they dare you to make a move. They used to move only at night and now days they move around in the daylight. Was on a ranch in the Divot area 18 yrs ago and was riding around with the owner. Kept seeing bicycle tracks on the roads in certain locations. I finally asked about them. LO said the illegals were riding mountain bikes from down by the river up to the Sabinal area to be picked up. The coyote would take the bikes back down for the next group. I have seen groups as large as 18 at a time on a ranch I lived on but most of the time it was 1-3 at a time in Sept/Oct then around Feb-April. I usually saw 4-6 sets of tracks per year and maybe 1 group. Always was aware of my surroundings since I lived on the ranch by myself and closest neighbor was 3 miles away that was seasonal at best, next closest was 7 miles that lived year round on the ranch. I lived 3.5 miles off the highway thru 2 different ranches with 3 locked gates. If someone knocked on my door where I lived they were in serious trouble or looking for trouble.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/21/15 10:19 PM
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MS1454
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we hunt near the border and have for 8 years - we had some traffic but as soon as the fence went up it all stopped - no issues in camp and have not seen them on the ranch - maybe there is something to Trump's idea There something to it but I doubt they will finish it.I think they need more people, military down there. Its incredible that they can shoot at agents, shoot at bp helicopters and such and we don't take more action.
I'll take a Black Female every time.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
[Re: duck_slayer89]
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10/21/15 10:23 PM
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TurkeyHunter
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Just do heavy fines and even jail time for people who employ illegals in the USA. Lots of ideas just treat the symptoms, not the cause.
To be determined
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/21/15 11:19 PM
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Just do heavy fines and even jail time for people who employ illegals in the USA. Lots of ideas just treat the symptoms, not the cause. I've hired (legal's) according to the IRS. The IRS was wrong. I was paying $20/hour So you believe I should get a huge fine and go to jail. Where I can sit and watch illegals enjoy the freedom of "America". It's not that hard. Wait in the line just like we do at the DMV, and get the proper paperwork. Then to America. Why we make simple solutions so hard is so the government can GROW and GROW and GROW
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Lucky 7 Exotic Ranch located in Eden, Tx. Well managed self sustaining herds roaming our 3,000 acre ranch. First Class Lodging, Ranch style meals and qualified guides. 30+ species.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/21/15 11:38 PM
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fouzman
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Most who have hunted the stx brush country have stories of "encounters".
We hunt 23 miles ENE of I35 S and the Callaghan Interchange. I've been hunting the area from Cotulla to the RG River in Laredo since 1994. Encountered a few 'migrants' in that time.
I've never seen or talked to a drug mule, though. Just lots and lots of Mexicans and S Americans trying to get to a better place. As an American citizen, it pizzes me off to no end. As a human being, I simply can't turn my back on someone embroiled in such a life or death journey.
Part of the problem. I know.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/21/15 11:51 PM
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I've never had a bad experience in all these years other than a few missing game cams and those were the ranch hands I'm sure ...
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/21/15 11:52 PM
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SniperRAB
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That's not illegals ... That's the Wildgame Innovations Quality Control Team
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/21/15 11:55 PM
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fouzman
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A traveling family needs tortilla makings
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 12:12 AM
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I wish our Cuddeback worked that well.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 12:19 AM
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I'll share just a few. Cousin of ranch owner drove to his favorite blind one morning. He pulled up to the staircase leading up to the blind. Before his wife could exit the vehicle, a young man dressed in black appeared on the landing just outside the blind, at the top of the stairs. Hands in the air. Jose' and the man exchanged a few howdy doodys in Mexican. Jose' knew to haul azz when a second man emerged from the stand with some type of small black gun with a large mag slung over his shoulder. Trailcam photos revealed a third man. Dressed in a suit and shirt, no tie. Long gone when BP arrived. 1997 Ranch owner's wife encountered a man walking on the county 'road'. After the man climbed in the bed of her truck, she noticed he was talking on a cell phone. She phoned her husband who alerted local branches of LE. Long story short, she picked up one of the most wanted BLO leaders. He's still in U.S. custody. 2001 Encounters since then have been fairly limited and almost always friendly. Although we found some children's socks and Mexican girly mags in one stand last season.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 02:09 AM
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He's definitely mature.. 5.5-6.5. Hard to score this time of year but I'd say somewhere in the mid to low 130s. Well done.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 02:58 AM
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Heard a story from the buddy of mine who owned the land down there, back when hey first got a place down there and he was still naive. He was driving home one morning down their dirt road when he saw three mexican guys walking down the road that proceeded to flag him down. Long story short they said they just needed a place to stay and stupid him was almost too scared to say no so he told them to hop in the bed and that they could stay in one of the cabins they've got.. On the way to the ranch he made a quick call to one of his BP buddies with a description of the men. They pretty much told him that if you make it back to the ranch where y'all are all all one you won't make it long, and within about 15 minutes they surrounded his stupid butt with cars, trucks and helicopter. Turns out it was one of the biggest "coyotes" in the area that had been on the run for a year or so. Who knows if it's true or not, but he made it believable.
You can run but you can't hide...
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 03:09 AM
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doogie
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[quote=doogie] I think they are trying to set the timer to day light savings time and making sure the solar panel is working.
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 12:26 PM
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Bachelor groups liket this will break up before the rut starts
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 12:51 PM
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Can't fault a person for trying to improve their life. Can fault them for not having the gumption to stand up for themselves in their own country. Strength in numbers.
Trump is right. Close the borders. Deport them. Reform the process that allows new citizens. You have to start somewhere. None of the choices will be easy. I agree that it will be much more profitable for the U.S. If we just charge people more money to become citizens and decrease the time frame in which it takes to do so. However, us lowly American citizens have all the answers when Washington has its own head so far up its own [censored] they can't make heads or tails of any situation due to the entire bureaucratic process. Stalemates always occur.
The million dollar question, What should we do?
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Re: Illegals on deer lease
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10/22/15 01:30 PM
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Can't fault a person for trying to improve their life. Can fault them for not having the gumption to stand up for themselves in their own country. Strength in numbers.
Trump is right. Close the borders. Deport them. Reform the process that allows new citizens. You have to start somewhere. None of the choices will be easy. I agree that it will be much more profitable for the U.S. If we just charge people more money to become citizens and decrease the time frame in which it takes to do so. However, us lowly American citizens have all the answers when Washington has its own head so far up its own [censored] they can't make heads or tails of any situation due to the entire bureaucratic process. Stalemates always occur.
The million dollar question, What should we do? Vote Trump?
-Those who say money can't buy happiness never bought a dog.
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