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#5984992 - 10/19/15 10:39 PM Most efficient kill shot
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I just turned 60 this year been hunting since I was 6 years old..In my experience I have always shot for the vitals..heart lung shot..preferably double lung shot..just talked with another " old timer" and he said he aims for the neck..said he has never seen a dying deer always kills them instantly..so my question is what is your default shot..mine has always been right behind front shoulder..lung heart shot..what say you?? the interested in what you say jcb

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#5984997 - 10/19/15 10:41 PM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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With a rifle, it is the high shoulder shot. Breaks them down and haven't had one move after impact. Used to shoot behind the shoulder and while it was always a quick ending, sometimes required some tracking.

With a bow, it is always behind the shoulder.
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#5985019 - 10/19/15 10:55 PM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: txshntr]
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Originally Posted By: txshntr
With a rifle, it is the high shoulder shot. Breaks them down and haven't had one move after impact. Used to shoot behind the shoulder and while it was always a quick ending, sometimes required some tracking.

With a bow, it is always behind the shoulder.


Does this break the spine? Is that why this works?


Edited by rexmitchell (10/19/15 10:56 PM)

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#5985028 - 10/19/15 10:59 PM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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A heart and lung shot yields the largest margin for error, making it the most ethical shot IMO.

However, I will take neck shots at close range (20 yards or less) when a clear shot to the vitals is not available.
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#5985039 - 10/19/15 11:07 PM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: rexmitchell]
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Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Originally Posted By: txshntr
With a rifle, it is the high shoulder shot. Breaks them down and haven't had one move after impact. Used to shoot behind the shoulder and while it was always a quick ending, sometimes required some tracking.

With a bow, it is always behind the shoulder.


Does this break the spine? Is that why this works?


Yes. It breaks down both shoulders and snaps the spine. It is a high impact shot that breaks down the animal and the mobility. Most the time, the vitals are shredded from shrapnel. While I believe it to be the most efficient method, it will destroy more meat than the "boiler room" shot, but I have never had to track a deer and never seen one lost with that placement.

If you miss forward, it is the base of the neck. If you miss back, it is in the vitals. If you miss low, it is breaks the shoulders or legs. If you miss high, you missed. My 2cents
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#5985040 - 10/19/15 11:07 PM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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a heart/lung or brain shot kills.
no blood pumping or brain to tell
the heart to pump kills.
shoulder/neck shots break up the
chassis and stop the getaway.

i'll benevolently allow others to use what they
want to as long as they accord me the same courtesy happy3

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#5985042 - 10/19/15 11:10 PM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: maximum]
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Originally Posted By: maximum
a heart/lung or brain shot kills.
no blood pumping or brain to tell
the heart to pump kills.
shoulder/neck shots break up the
chassis and stop the getaway.

i'll benevolently allow others to use what they
want to as long as they accord me the same courtesy happy3


Won't happen, too many "my way is the right way" rofl

I have seen plenty of mishaps with all variations of shots. There are certain shots that I won't take because of the results of others. Best to leave it to each hunter to know their own boundaries and limitations though...but he asked what we thought was the most efficient shot cheers
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#5985068 - 10/20/15 12:35 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
mow Offline
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Well said y'all..thanks

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#5985118 - 10/20/15 04:59 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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Head and neck move too much. I've head shot lots of doe but over the years high shoulder is the most consistent. See a head or neck shot go wrong one time and you will think twice about it next time.

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#5985138 - 10/20/15 05:52 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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90% of the time I am a behind the shoulder broadside shot kind of hunter when it comes to deer.
10% of the time I will shoot to break down both front shoulders. I only do this with a rifle and only when tracking the deer is something I want to avoid at all costs. Blowing out both shoulders usually results in a animal that drops in its tracks but also results in quite a bit of meat loss.

For pigs I will blow out both shoulders just about every time unless I plan to eat them. Every now and then I will take a head or neck shot on one but its usually a last resort.

Never cared for neck shots and in my opinion head shots are egotistical.

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#5985163 - 10/20/15 06:24 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: JCB]
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Originally Posted By: JCB
90% of the time I am a behind the shoulder broadside shot kind of hunter when it comes to deer.
10% of the time I will shoot to break down both front shoulders. I only do this with a rifle and only when tracking the deer is something I want to avoid at all costs. Blowing out both shoulders usually results in a animal that drops in its tracks but also results in quite a bit of meat loss.

For pigs I will blow out both shoulders just about every time unless I plan to eat them. Every now and then I will take a head or neck shot on one but its usually a last resort.

Never cared for neck shots and in my opinion head shots are egotistical.


The above are my thoughts exactly.
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#5985185 - 10/20/15 06:50 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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Anyone ever try the ol texas heart shot?
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#5985208 - 10/20/15 07:05 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: DuckCoach1985]
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Originally Posted By: DuckCoach1985
Anyone ever try the ol texas heart shot?


Yep, on hogs. Right up the wazzoo. If you drill em straight, it drops em deader than easy credit.
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#5985210 - 10/20/15 07:07 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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Your best and most ethical shot is the one you know you can't miss when taking it. And the reasons why you can't miss is for another discussion.
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#5985245 - 10/20/15 07:31 AM Re: Most efficient kill shot [Re: mow]
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Hi-point of the shoulder is my shot on any deer. It anchors the deer in it tracks with zero tracking. It gets spine, neck, and/or shoulders on the deer. I have used this shot for 24 yrs now and will not change.

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