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#5981673 - 10/17/15 01:50 PM Thoughts on Plots.
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We disced and threw about 1-1/2 acres of seed and fertilizer. Winter peas, wheat, clover and one other (can't remember) on Sept 27th. There hasn't been a single rain or even heavy dew since. If the seed hasn't been pilfered, I assume it will still sprout, but should we buy more seend and spread again?

There is a very good chance of rain in the middle of this week so I need to get moving now.

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#5981686 - 10/17/15 02:06 PM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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That seed should be fine sitting there, same as seed that rest all winter waiting for Spring. You just want a couple of weeks of decent temps for them to sprout good and gets some root down, clover will come on better next Spring anyway.
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#5981695 - 10/17/15 02:15 PM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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I planted 2 weeks ago now and my seed is still not up either. I planted last year in mid Sept and part came up over the next week. The rest did not come up till the last part of October when it rained. All oats and winter peas both years.
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#5981715 - 10/17/15 02:52 PM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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I am in the same boat, planted same exact date. Waiting on first rain since. Looking good for late this next week. In years past have waited a couple weeks before rain but never this long. Seed came up fine when waiting a couple weeks, what's a couple extra? Should be fine, esp if you lightly disced the seed in the dirt to cover. Weeds have a little extra pillow of cover too since they were thick before plowing.

Once the plot comes up the deer will be hammering it, since last visit the natural veg has almost all turned brown and burned out. It was quite green last visit a couple weeks ago.

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#5981849 - 10/17/15 05:33 PM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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I did have some germination, posted a few photos in the thread I made this year on my plot. Checked today and those shady areas have been grazed to a nub, but tons of seed still in and on the ground. We just need a weeks worth of some kind of moisture and it will look like a "chia pet"!!
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#5981981 - 10/17/15 07:53 PM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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Exact same boat. Same schedule. Hogs have jacked up one plot eating the seed. Need some rain.
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#5982035 - 10/17/15 08:39 PM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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I was worried I missed the window to get seed out for this year. Heck I may put some out next week since we havn't had any rain since July either. I'm kind of glad I didn't since the hogs will probably rob me. I'm going to try a hot wire around the plot to hopefully curtail that.
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#5982373 - 10/18/15 08:20 AM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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I am with all of you, need rain really bad. Will be over seeding my whole place with rye grass just to keep it from washing away if we get lots of rain this winter. Most of grass has died due to the drought. Will mix is some grains on about 2 acres.

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#5982375 - 10/18/15 08:21 AM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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Same as most of yall. Hogs ransacked my plot within a couple days. I never disked it under. Wheat,peas,and turnips. Cant see any wheat laying. Im gonna reseed with wheat as I have leftover, but would yall re-
fertilize as i have plenty left as well. Dont want to over fertilize and mess things up... Thanks.

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#5982420 - 10/18/15 08:56 AM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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Originally Posted By: Enter Standman
We disced and threw about 1-1/2 acres of seed and fertilizer. Winter peas, wheat, clover and one other (can't remember) on Sept 27th. There hasn't been a single rain or even heavy dew since. If the seed hasn't been pilfered, I assume it will still sprout, but should we buy more seend and spread again?

There is a very good chance of rain in the middle of this week so I need to get moving now.


Same here, we put ours out Labor day weekend. I wouldn't redo it, you should be fine once it rains.
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#5982424 - 10/18/15 09:01 AM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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It is hard to over fertilize, but easy to waste the extra. Phosphorus and Potassium take a while to break down and get into the soil, nitrogen can dissipate pretty quick, especially if it was a liquid. Did you get a soil sample? without that, you really don't know if you're wasting it, or actually adding what you really need. Without a soil sample, it is usually recommended to add 2-300#'s an acre of a general purpose fertilizer like 13-13-13, or 15-15-15

Worse case, you can wait until you get good germination, then top dress that with a good nitrogen like 24-0-0- or similar. BTW, You need to get the seed some what under the surface.
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#5983177 - 10/18/15 08:21 PM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: JD4030]
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Originally Posted By: JD4030
Originally Posted By: Enter Standman
We disced and threw about 1-1/2 acres of seed and fertilizer. Winter peas, wheat, clover and one other (can't remember) on Sept 27th. There hasn't been a single rain or even heavy dew since. If the seed hasn't been pilfered, I assume it will still sprout, but should we buy more seend and spread again?

There is a very good chance of rain in the middle of this week so I need to get moving now.


Same here, we put ours out Labor day weekend. I wouldn't redo it, you should be fine once it rains.


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#5983713 - 10/19/15 09:32 AM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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I did first plot this year. Got lucky planted September 7th or so few days before a decent rain. Did Tecomate Max-Attract which is supposed to be OK minimal water Peas, Clovers, Chicory, and Cereal Grains. However, I think my key this year was had neighbor go over with the wheat drill. My wheat is looking great although it has been dry for a month and not much of the other stuff has come up. That might have to be my game plan going forward is always do wheat drill on top so even in drought you have something.
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#5983768 - 10/19/15 10:07 AM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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What are the cons of re-seeding? Can you put out too much? Obviously you can, but how the hell do I know how much is too much?

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#5983821 - 10/19/15 10:35 AM Re: Thoughts on Plots. [Re: Enter Standman]
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I think the biggest "con", would be if the ground can support all the extra growth, if you fertilized well, it should be ok. I always over seed when I plant since I get some loss to broadcasting. Last year it all came up and did great, up too 4'!, but I also fertilize mine.

Another con would be the seed in the ground that is set, waiting on rain, you will still get a lot of it to germinate though, just added work and expense.
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