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Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: ronlhodges] #5996815 10/27/15 06:01 PM
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I've narrowed down to the last two choices . Beretta A300 Outlander with Woodstock or the A350 Extrema in Camo . $220.00 difference between the two . The A350 has a 3.5" chamber , the A300 has 3.0" chamber . Other than stocks and chamber there is no difference . I'll be checking these two out this Friday .

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Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: ronlhodges] #5997181 10/27/15 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: ronlhodges
Other than stocks and chamber there is no difference .


This is not correct... the barrels are different, the A300 Outlander takes Mobil chokes where the A350 Xtrema takes Optima HP chokes. The bolts are different, as the A350 has a rotating bolt similar to the A400 series. The 350 also appears to only come with one choke.

Not saying that the A350 Xtrema is a bad gun, but it is a different animal than the A300 Outlander. Now for the strange part... There is no mention of this shotgun, nor the A300 Xtrema on the Beretta website. And other than the camo pattern, I am not seeing much difference between the two Xtrema versions. Why a new model if camo pattern is the only difference?

If you don't need the 3.5" chamber, save the $200 and go with the A300 Outlander. Besides, if you are going to shoot those 3.5" loads, you are going to want the Beretta kick off recoil reducer which will cost you another couple hundred dollars.

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Originally Posted By: ronlhodges
Other than stocks and chamber there is no difference .


This is not correct... the barrels are different, the A300 Outlander takes Mobil chokes where the A350 Xtrema takes Optima HP chokes. The bolts are different, as the A350 has a rotating bolt similar to the A400 series. The 350 also appears to only come with one choke.

Not saying that the A350 Xtrema is a bad gun, but it is a different animal than the A300 Outlander. Now for the strange part... There is no mention of this shotgun, nor the A300 Xtrema on the Beretta website. And other than the camo pattern, I am not seeing much difference between the two Xtrema versions. Why a new model if camo pattern is the only difference?

If you don't need the 3.5" chamber, save the $200 and go with the A300 Outlander. Besides, if you are going to shoot those 3.5" loads, you are going to want the Beretta kick off recoil reducer which will cost you another couple hundred dollars.


The Extremas are not listed on Berettas site cause the A400 is the replacements but different retail stores still have them in stock and Cabelas is one of them . When I was talking about no difference I was meaning in general comparing all three that they all were 28" barrels , all were SA , the Extremas had a different recoil pad than the Outlander but just in general all three are similar . There is not that much difference in the barrels to worry about decisions but I do like the Outlander having more chokes available and having the mobil barrel is ok with me . All are 12-guage . I'm only going to check out the A350 Extrema but i'll end up with the Outlander cause I'm partial to wood stocks . Only the A400 Extremas have the KO Recoil System . The A350 and A300 do not .

Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: ronlhodges] #5997737 10/28/15 01:48 AM
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The A400 is not the replacement for the A300 or the A350 Xtrema... they came out after the A400 series... they are new, and they are a lower cost alternative. The 300 Xtrema just showed up for a short bit last year. The kick off system is available for the 350 Xtrema... it is the same system that the 391 Xtrema used. I think it was also used on the A300 Xtrema, but I am not certain as I have never seen one. As far as the difference in the barrels, the Xtremas have the same alloy as the 400s, which is different from the A300. Plus the chokes are different.

The numbering system is the dumbest thing Beretta has done, as it confuses everyone. They re-used the A300 moniker, as there was an A300 built back in the early '70's. And now they have the 350 Xtrema which is the replacement for the 391 Xtrema series, which had already been replaced by the A400 Xtrema.

I am surprised by the lack of info available on these new Xtremas. I may have to go look at one myself.

Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: cyphertext] #5998007 10/28/15 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: cyphertext
The kick off system is available for the 350 Xtrema... it is the same system that the 391 Xtrema used. I think it was also used on the A300 Xtrema, but I am not certain as I have never seen one.
I am surprised by the lack of info available on these new Xtremas. I may have to go look at one myself.


Here is the best info I have been able to find on the A350 Xtrema 12-ga :

Beretta A350 Xtrema Semiautomatic Shotgun

• Berretta's gas-operating system reliably cycles 2-3/4" to 3-1/2" shells
• 28" cold-hammer-forged barrel made from Steelium
• Optima HP choke system for superior patterning
• Nonstick Micro Core recoil pad

Here is the best info I have found on the A300 Xtrema :

Beretta A300 Xtrema Semiautomatic Shotgun

• Beretta gas operating system reliably cycles 2-3/4" to 3-1/2" shells
• Optima HP choke system
• Micro Core recoil pad absorbs recoil for all-day shooting comfort
• Length-of-pull adjustment customizes to fit you perfectly
Both use the : Recoil is reduced with a nonstick Micro Core recoil pad

Here is where you can compare both together : http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse/se...p;WTz_stype=GNU

Click each name to find the info . I think your going to find that there is very little difference to compare between the two . The biggest noticeable difference is the Camo colors , one is Realtree MAX 4 and the other is Realtree MAX 5 . And both are the same price . If I have time I might try contacting Beretta and just asking why these two are not listed on their site and if they are new or being replaced by the A400 . I've watched several videos and I know one I saw said the A400 was replacing the A350 and the A391 . But I have watched so many I cannot remember which one said that .

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Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: ronlhodges] #5998026 10/28/15 03:59 AM
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The A391 was replaced by the A400 series. The A300 Outlander is kind of a hybrid... gas piston similar to the 400, bolt similar to the 391, with the action spring in the stock.

Those Xtremas are even more like a 400 with a rotating bolt, Optima chokes, and the "steelium" barrel. The Kick off is an extra that can be added... it does not come with it, but it is available. These guys have it...
Moody gun and knife

The A300 Xtrema showed up in Canadian Cabela's stores last year. The A350 xtrema listed on the Canadian Cabela's also appears to have the kick off.

cabela's canada

Boo Radley, what say you? What does the A350 Xtrema have on it in the American market? And is the stock similar enough to the older Xtrema and Urika models that the same kick off system can be used? Do you guys even have these in stock?

Ron, either way you go, if it fits you, you will be getting a good shotgun!

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Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: ronlhodges] #5998054 10/28/15 04:34 AM
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Finally I found something with info on the A350 . It is NEW being introduced this Autumn of 2015 . This has me thinking hard now which gun do I want . They have both the Outlander and the A350 on reserve for me to check out this Friday . Being only $220.00 difference this will be a close call . And cyphertext , the info does verify it has the Kick Off Recoil system . That will be something I will check out closely ! Here is a link to all new guns being introduced : https://www.gmk.co.uk/content/brochures/game_insight/game_insight.pdf

Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: ronlhodges] #5998071 10/28/15 05:22 AM
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Let us know about that 350 xtrema, even if you choose to go with the Outlander... I'm just very curious about it now.

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Originally Posted By: cyphertext
Let us know about that 350 xtrema, even if you choose to go with the Outlander... I'm just very curious about it now.


Will do , I look forward to checking it out Friday .

Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: cyphertext] #6002910 10/31/15 03:36 AM
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Let us know about that 350 xtrema, even if you choose to go with the Outlander... I'm just very curious about it now.


Got back from Lubbock tonight . First i'll tell you the A300 Xtremas are great S/Gs' if you do a lot of duck hunting .It did not have the KO system as the A400 Extrema does . It's padded but very nice on the recoil pads . Weight feels good . Since I never been duck or water fowl hunting and probably never will I passed on both the A300 and A350 . Surprisingly I passed on the A300 Outlander also . It didn't feel as right as what I thought it would ,the A400 Xtrema is much much better but also nearly $1000.00 more frown . Now this is just me so anyone else might go in and find it totally fits for them . Something individuals must do .

I walked out with a Franchi Affinity 12-ga with 28" bl . weights 6.25-lbs , 3" chamber and fit me perfect right out of the box . It has the Inertia system with a chrome bolt and I got it n wood but it was much lighter than the Outlander was . Not sure when i'll get to shoot it but I hope soon in the future . COmes with 7- yr warranty , and has some Benelli features and it's made in Italy . I'm sure hoping this is going to be the right decision ! It's a vey nice gun and a little cheaper than the Xtremas were . Hope this might help you on your curiosity some .

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I think you made a very good choice Ron. I did just the opposite... We went shopping with the Affinity being on the top of the list, but when my son and I both shouldered them, they just didn't feel right. I found myself looking down onto the top of the receiver when I shouldered it naturally.

The salesman handed me the Beretta Outlander and it came to the shoulder and I was looking down the barrel, not down onto it... just felt better, so that is what we bought. I bought the camo one for my boy and after shooting a round of skeet with it, I went back a few weeks later and bought myself one in wood.

Get out there and shoot it, let us know what you think!

Re: Best Shotgun for All Around Hunting ? [Re: ronlhodges] #6003389 10/31/15 05:03 PM
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That's good for you . I just wish they had made the stock lighter in color than being so dark but like I mentioned for whatever reason it just didn't feel right and that was new out the box . I checked out the Rem American Classic and it was nice but $1499.99 and looked too nice to be taking to the field for upland bird hunting . I'm not one that can keep a gun real pretty , when I go out there is going to be some marks from hunting frown . But that's what makes hunting fun is not worrying about keep things perfect . Are you still liking the Outlander and how it shoots ?

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Oh yes, still like the Outlander... it has become my go to gun, replacing my old Beretta BL-4 over and under. I just shoot it better. The over and under is now my back up, and my Wingmaster hasn't left the safe in a couple of years.

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