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#5977230 - 10/14/15 12:09 PM what animals hear from suppressors part II
Texaslawman Offline
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Silencer shop came down this weekend and brought some suppressors and decibel meters with them. So we decided to show the noise a bullet impact from a suppressed rifle makes on impact with the animal. We used .308, 6.8spc, .45acp, 5.56, 22LR and 300 blackout.


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#5977265 - 10/14/15 12:26 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Pretty cool stuff
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#5977313 - 10/14/15 12:55 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Great video. The jury had still been out for me regarding my suppressor purchase until this weekend. As I stated in a previous post, my other lease members did not hear me shoot the pig twice from less that a 1/4 mile away. So while the suppressor doesn't make it Hollywood quite, it does elminate the need for hearing protection. I can't wait until I catch a big sounder in a wheat field.

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#5977526 - 10/14/15 03:31 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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That was pretty cool. I have to admit that I was confused for a second because I heard him say the the 45 carbine was shooting +P+ bullets. But then the sheet said subsonic. I had to go back and watch again and I heard that it was the brand of bullet and that they were subsonic.


Good information to have.
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#5977600 - 10/14/15 04:25 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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I am actually surprised at the suppressed db levels, thought they might be a little lower...makes me wonder what non suppressed sounds like for each of those weapons and rounds.


cool video and good work on it!


Edited by Texas buckeye (10/14/15 04:27 PM)

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#5977604 - 10/14/15 04:27 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: bigjoe8565]
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Originally Posted By: bigjoe8565
Great video. The jury had still been out for me regarding my suppressor purchase until this weekend. As I stated in a previous post, my other lease members did not hear me shoot the pig twice from less that a 1/4 mile away. So while the suppressor doesn't make it Hollywood quite, it does elminate the need for hearing protection. I can't wait until I catch a big sounder in a wheat field.


Having said that, there have been many times I have not heard my BIL shoot his non-suppressed 30-06 less than a quarter mile away on my lease...tree cover and wind makes a big difference to allowing sound to travel some days.

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#5977614 - 10/14/15 04:32 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Which .45 carbine was that?
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#5977700 - 10/14/15 05:23 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Most excellent information.

As a point of reference, you should list the SPL of each gun without a silencer using the brake/hider that would normally be installed on the production gun.
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#5977918 - 10/14/15 07:29 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Nice video (as always), good illustration of the relative benefits of using a suppressor.

Caption should read: What HUMANS hear from suppressors, however.

Most of the animals we hunt (and certainly hogs) have superior hearing to ours in terms of gathering sound.

Depending on the animal, 'direction' of sound can be better determined as well.

Still, the video offers those without suppressor experience....something to chew on. Good job.

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#5977944 - 10/14/15 07:49 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Very good. I remember your first suppressor/impact video, it was neat but this was an awesome improvement. Location of the microphones was better and the bd meters showed what you tried to communicate previously.
I enjoyed it and will share the link for others to see.
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#5978109 - 10/14/15 08:57 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: bull279]
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Originally Posted By: bull279
That was pretty cool. I have to admit that I was confused for a second because I heard him say the the 45 carbine was shooting +P+ bullets. But then the sheet said subsonic. I had to go back and watch again and I heard that it was the brand of bullet and that they were subsonic.


Good information to have.



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#5978129 - 10/14/15 09:02 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Vern1]
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Originally Posted By: Vern1
Most excellent information.

As a point of reference, you should list the SPL of each gun without a silencer using the brake/hider that would normally be installed on the production gun.


This was not a test to show the effectiveness of the suppressor on the rifle. This was a test to show that impact on targets hogs, coyotes, deer is generally louder or close to the weapon firing suppressed. Many people think a subsonic load with a suppressor will allow them to shoot with impunity while the rest of the intended targets hear nothing.

There are many videos on Silencer Shops youtube of the rifles being fired with and without suppressors this was solely for the bullet impact.
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#5978139 - 10/14/15 09:06 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: flintknapper]
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Originally Posted By: flintknapper
Nice video (as always), good illustration of the relative benefits of using a suppressor.

Caption should read: What HUMANS hear from suppressors, however.

Most of the animals we hunt (and certainly hogs) have superior hearing to ours in terms of gathering sound.

Depending on the animal, 'direction' of sound can be better determined as well.

Still, the video offers those without suppressor experience....something to chew on. Good job.

Flint.


Even if they hear better that will not change the decibel level? The whole point is to show when firing into a group the other hogs will run from the impact of the bullet not the gun shot.

I have been saying for a couple of years now that the impact sounds louder than the shot now I know for sure. I changed up the whole order I shoot the hogs now, by shooting the one closest to cover they usually will run into the open more giving me more shots. Sometimes I can even steer them with the impacts smile
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#5978318 - 10/14/15 11:25 PM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Nice video. Good to see the measurement at both ends of the action.

Re: hunting techniques, a ranger up in the east uses the tactic of, when there is a tree behind his prey, he shoots the tree, and the prey will generally run towards him. He uses this when culling deer. Keeps more of them in his sites longer.

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#5978763 - 10/15/15 10:28 AM Re: what animals hear from suppressors part II [Re: Texaslawman]
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Whats the decibel level on the 6.8 with those 120 sst's not using a suppressor. Something I have been curious about.


Edited by bornforit (10/15/15 10:30 AM)

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